Lomachenko's legacy.

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  1. ShovelHook

    ShovelHook Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    True, even though they'd all be top tier fights, especially LSC and Berchelt as you said, both of them are, let's say, around top 15/20 p4p(?). I figure all of these guys will be said to have shortcomings.
    Davis is super talented albeit lazy and cherrypicking currently.
    I still think Haney needs a marquee victory before a Loma fight.
    The winner of Commey - Lopez should be easily considered a step above B class or not too green for the opportunity seeing as if Lopez got that win it'd say a lot about him in his 15th fight and if Commey got the win it'd be another notch in his pretty good resumé.
    Berchelt has already owned 130lbs for a while now in dominant fashion and LSC although a cherry picker nowadays is undoubtedly talented and has beaten a prime Frampton (questionably), in fact Frampton could be another name.
    Maybe Shakur Stevenson or Warrington if they move up too. I'm just spitballing top talents in and around 130-135lbs.
    I'm not even gonna bother mentioning Mikey Garcia as he doesn't want none of that smoke clearly.
     
  2. ShovelHook

    ShovelHook Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He's a fraud nowadays, afraid of a true test since Frampton, no doubt about it.
     
  3. Rdc4444

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  4. this_and_that

    this_and_that Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Thank you for proving my point.
    This video is way back in 2016 and Pacquiao has repeatedly said he's willing to go down to 135 to fight Loma.
    Guess what Loma said? I'll give you a tip: view the more recent relevant videos.
     
  5. LANCE99

    LANCE99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pac will be dead in the water at 135... he can't go down that far and still retain his explosiveness.
     
  6. this_and_that

    this_and_that Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Exactly. He'd probably be very dehydrated and sloppy from all the muscle mass loss.
    And yet Loma can't find the balls to fight Pac.

    I think this fight can be made at 140 if sufficient amount of interest and $$$ is on the line.
    Probably too high for Loma, probably too low even for Pac at his age.
     
  7. LANCE99

    LANCE99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah, Loma should totally look to fight a guy who'll be dead drained at 135. FFS.... :duh
     
  8. this_and_that

    this_and_that Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He should be looking to fight a guy who hasn't made any excuses to fight him at 135, is top 10 P4P RIGHT NOW, coming off one of the best wins of the year in the sport, the most proven, successful and well known boxer in the world right now, and will undoubtedly be the biggest name in his resume and will catapult him to HoF category.

    FFS argue better. Or are you like Loma who gives excuses after excuses knowing all too well that Pac's going to spark him?
     
  9. Oakland Billy Smith

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    He peaked too early. He had that nice little run between 2017 and 2018 in which he beat Nicholas Walters and Rigo back to back but unfortunately has gone down hill ever since.
    He's played it very safe since his scare against Linares, and shows no sign of letting up anytime soon.
    Not to worry, Lomas fan boys in the media will allow his legacy to be written in a very favorable manner, but people who actually watch fights and follow the sport will always know the truth
     
  10. LANCE99

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    Has Pac recently said he'll go to 135? The guy just won a title at 147 FFS. If Pac has said since the thurman fight, that he'll go to 135 for Loma, that's one thing. I'll gladly concede if that's the case.

    Loma can make the HOf w/o Pac, cut that crap out. There isn't only one route to the HOF for Loma.

    You just sound like an angry punk now. But maybe you are right, maybe Pac, at his eldest, can EASILY make a weight he had not since 2008, and still be the fighter he is. :lol: No...the 135 ship sailed...
     
  11. Rdc4444

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    Okay I watched a more recent interview with loma from 2018 and he doesn’t want to fight an old man. I see his point as he has nothing to gain by defeating a weight drained 40+ year old legend. It would be similar to pac vs de la Hoya.
     
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  12. Richmondpete

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    He needs more wins for me to put him on the same level as other elite atg little guys. Longevity is an inprtant part of being a great champion to me. If he retires with less than 25 fights and has a loss on his ledger he'll never be in that top echelon in my view
     
  13. Pakkuman

    Pakkuman I'm not hot. I'm just BIG. banned Full Member

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    Lomachenko can punch his way into ATG greatness by becoming a welterweight champion. One challenged him and despite competing at 147, he is actually smaller than some of Lomachenko's most recent foes.
     
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  14. TEAM_LOMA

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    Did someone say LOMA?
     
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  15. Limerickbox

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    Lets say he has 2-3 years left at the very top.

    Thats maybe 7-8 fights.

    Commey-Lopez winner
    Tank Davis
    Move down to 130 and fight the winner of the TRs little 130lbs tourney.(Berchelt,Frampton, Valdez,Herring)
    Assuming Stevenson keeps winning, he'll be moving up in weigh soon.

    Couple of stay busy fights in there (Kombosos for one), and he'd have a HOF record, perhaps ATG level.