How would Wilder, Fury , AJ and Ruiz be ranked in the 1966-1976 era

Top 10?
None beat any of the best from that time, Frazier and Ali put beatings or schoolings on them all

 

Yow, that's a good question.

Well, in the 60s I can only see Fury possibly getting by with a decision victory over Liston. I think most of us here don't think ANY of those guys would have much chance with the Ali of the time. I can imagine Deontay landing a big shot and putting Frazier down...but not for the count (and I kind of doubt Wilder could finish him).

I imagine the current champs and Ruiz would certainly be ranked, though. I'd bet they'd do well against Williams, Folley, Terrell, Cooper.

Ellis might beat Ruiz, and Jimmy might even get a sneaky right in on Joshua and at least temporarily mess him up.

 

I sympathize with this overall, however as ranked contenders I think they'd all do good against other contenders.

 

I think they'd all fight eachother in that era.

 

I doubt ANY of them would be champs except (as intimated by me above) maybe by guile Fury beats Liston SD (then gets made into a lumbering, helpless hulk against Cassius).

 

Of course they could.

Put Tyson Fury, Deontay Wilder or Anthony Joshua in the WBA Heavyweight Tournament. Who beats any of them? Nobody.

Put any of them against Buster Mathis for a heavyweight championship of FIVE STATES ... and who loses to Mathis? None of them.

Fury, Wilder and Joshua are all going to be elected to the Boxing Hall of Fame. Wilder's got 10 straight WBC Heavyweight title defenses under his belt. Joshua has six defenses and has won three belts (twice). Fury has already been the RING champion and he and Wilder are fighting for it in February.

90 percent of the top 20 heavyweights from the 1960s and 1970s AREN'T in the Hall of Fame and weren't all that great. Certainly no better than the guys Fury, Wilder and Joshua have been beating.

Don't kid yourself about that era.

 

Ruiz would be fringing in and out of the top 10, the others would be top 10, Wilder occasionally bouncing into the top 5, probably via a brutal knockout of Ken Norton. All are very much below Ali, Frazier and Foreman tho.

 

The following were ranked in that 10 years.
Persol
Ramos
Corletti
Urtain
Garcia
Bodell
Roman
Wepner
Clark
Middleton
Bobick
Neuman
Smith
Boudreaux
Ward
I see no reason why that trio can't emulate if not excel those guys.

 

They'd have no chance with Ali, Liston, Foreman, Frazier. I also believe Young would Beat them all.

 

I don't think a 66 Liston (who imo was closer to 60 than 30 by that point) is beating Wilder, Joshua or Fury

 

My apologies. I thought it said 1960-1976. And I agree about his age.

 

Those 3 are the best HWs of this era. They wouldn't be anything but elite fighters in any given era imo. The real question is, could they beat the big 3 of '66-'76? It depends on how they're matched up.

Wilder matches up well against Frazier. Frazier was obviously the more skillful fighter but he's giving away 10" of reach and he's fighting an agile fighter. Wilder is no Buster Mathis. I'm not saying Frazier will be hitting air all night long, there's this thing called ring-cutting. Wilder's power makes this a compelling matchup. And the fact that he doesn't mind giving away rounds means fewer openings for Frazier.

Joshua matches up well against Foreman. I could've put Wilder here but I think you need to be more technical and more versatile to beat a guy like Foreman. AJ can fight on the outside and mid-range. Just because he lost to Ruiz, doesn't mean Foreman will run though him. Joshua struggled most with Ruiz's speed, not his pressure. Ruiz is a lot quicker than Foreman and he's a better combination puncher. Foreman puts a lot of pressure but he's hittable and he can be hurt. He was vulnerable to the right hand in particular since he kept his lead hand low and didn't move his head.

Fury vs Ali is a classic boxer vs boxer matchup. Even though Fury isn't as good as Ali, he has the size and style to trouble Ali. Most people will pick Ali but this would be another competitive fight.