Is Usyk ready for Joshua at HW yet?

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  1. Oreet Cha!

    Oreet Cha! I know what I like and I like what I know. Full Member

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    AJ will crush him once he connects.

    Usyk is good but Joshua hits hard.

    Usyk should fight Povetkin or Parker to gather a gauge of where he is at as an Heavyweight before facing AJ.
     
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  2. bruce_keyes

    bruce_keyes Well-Known Member Full Member

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    what are u talking about? Gassiev IS a heavyweight. 6'3" 225. Cruiserweights are heavyweights. its no surprise that the CW division was only created in 1982
     
  3. herbzg

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    I’ve never rated Hunter. He was another bum that usyk nut huggers hyped up just to make Usyk look better. He just lost to a mummified version of Povetkin. Usyk will lose to AJ. Another Eurobum hype train will be derailed. Currently the only person I see beating AJ is Wilder. Sorry to burst your bubble. Your probably one of those people who declared Andy Ruiz the second coming of Rocky Marciano after his fluke win against AJ
     
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  4. Robney

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    He was ready for mid 2019 Joshua, but probably not the late 2019 version.
     
  5. herbzg

    herbzg Euro-Level Athlete Full Member

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    Either version beats him
     
  6. zulander

    zulander Boxing Addict Full Member

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    They might have historically matched up with heavys in the past but coming in under 230 these days is considered light for heavy.

    Lewis was 242 V Holyfield
    AJ 250 V Wlad
    Wlad himself 243 V Haye

    There's only really Holyfield who's been that low against the big boys for any length of time and competed at the very highest level.
    The big guys now are giants
     
  7. Yatezy

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    Wilder is one nights worth of dehydration away from fighting at cruiser
     
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  8. cleglue1

    cleglue1 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    This!
     
  9. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    Hunter is decent enough. He's not a bum. Funny you slate people for talking him up to talk up Uysk and then talk him down to have the opposite effect. And faded or otherwise, Povetkin is still one of the top 10 HWs and - according to you while mummified - gave Joshua a good fight in the early rounds. Or conveniently, was he not mummified then?

    'You're probably one of those people.... *insert something hasn't actually said here*'... is one of the single most annoying and low-brow addendums to a comment imaginable.

    You burst nothing.
     
  10. herbzg

    herbzg Euro-Level Athlete Full Member

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    Depends on how you define bum . Hunter will never be a champion. Joshua nearly knocked Povetkins head off his shoulders...maybe you missed that fight. First man to stop him. Hunter still couldn’t beat a damaged senior citizen Povetkin. He’s a bum. Joshua destroys Usyk. Sorry to burst your bubble.


    ”You're probably one of those people.... *insert something hasn't actually said here*'... is one of the single most annoying and low-brow addendums to a comment imaginable.”

    The nuthugger that you’re defending did the exact same thing by assuming I was one of the people “gassing up Hunter” when I’ve never done such a thing
     
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  11. ray fritz

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  12. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    You're a living, breathing, internet cliche.

    Hunter isn't a bum. Stupid statement. Yeah, Joshua stopped Povetkin but in the rounds prior, Sasha was finding a home for his leaping left hook and causing him a fair bit of discomfort. I know this precisely because I saw the whole fight rather than just the TKO.

    As for your assessment AJ 'destroys' Uysk. Like he 'destroyed' Ruiz, off the back foot, behind a basic jab and clinching when close? The seek and destroy Joshua of pre-Wlad doesn't exist any more. That bubble HAS been burst...
     
  13. Jennifer Love Hewitt

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    He's as ready as he will ever be. I suspect AJ has to much power and Usyk has not enough power. Might as well take the fight. When the opportunity comes, you gotta take it.
     
  14. herbzg

    herbzg Euro-Level Athlete Full Member

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    Why are people on ESB so serious . Joshua was adjusting to Povetkin in the early rounds. They can fight a million times Joshua KOs him every time.

    Joshua will thoroughly dominate Usyk employing any style he chooses whether boxing on the backfoot or pressuring Usyk. Either strategy will get him the W
     
  15. zulander

    zulander Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He certainly is...but he's a rarity,a freak if you will that if he hits that hard but is that light.
    It's unusual in the modern era...Who else is that light that competes against the big boys?

    Usyk might try and be that light as well and he's brilliantly skilled - but he's going to have to start taking shots from big big punchers now. Cruisers hit hard. Heavy's hit harder. A durable heavy is probably going to stand up to more punishment than smaller guy as a generational. It took 7 rounds for him to get rid of a lower tier fighter. How does that extended to Fury, Wilder, Ruiz, AJ, Ruiz, etc

    What happens against AJ - whos shown a bit of variety, good punch output and power or Wilder - Who's power is bailing him out time after time or Fury.

    Even someone like Chisora who can't match Usyk in skills still weighs more and if he can land could cause Usyk some issues
    I actually think Usyk will be this generations Evander in that he gives anyone a hard nights work but he's unproven at the weight at the moment so i'd lean to an AJ win at some point at Joshua would land and having a guy who hits hard and outweigh you buy 20lbs your going to feel it.
     
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