Prime Pac vs Fab four- how many of the four could Pac have beaten?

Based on what? Passing all tests with flying colours? Not a smoking gun despite all the chasing? Oh, because roger mayweather and mayweather clan said so. Ok. Lol.

 

Jesus Christ

 

Duran ,Leonard and Hearns kill Manny. Manny wouldn't dare get in the ring with a prime Marvin Hagler,

 

This thread is an excellent indication of who I should ignore

 

It's all going to be tough but Hearns will probably be the boxer that will destroy Pac unlike the other. Hagler too but it's mostly because of the size difference.
Everything about Hearns -- his style, reach and demeanor -- are all wrong for Pac.
Well at least on paper that is.

I would love to see Pac vs Duran though. My boys of different generations going at it in an all out slugfest. Damn.

 

Boys,,,this is why drugs are illegal, it causes this kind of brain damage

 

But they lost to each other..........

First: A fight with Hagler would never happen, wouldn't even be feasible. There is no point in even discussing this one any further.

Hearns v Pac: Hearns at WW. Hearns at WW was quite frankly one of the top 5-10 WWs of all time. He was damn near perfect until the Ray Leonard fight. Hell, even in that fight people forget that he outboxed Leonard and only ultimately fell to him due to a war to attrition. If the fight were modern day Hearns would've won by 12 round decision. Hearns was 6'1, had an extraordinary jab, one of the hardest right hands in history, moved excellent and was very fast. There is not one advantage that Pac held. he'd be destroyed because he gets hit too cleanly. At WW, nearly everyone except Leonard that Heans hit, he ended. Hearns ko 5

Leonard v Pac: Leonard moved well, was extremely mobile, had good power, was a great counter puncher and threw in combination (top 10 as a combination puncher). He also had a great chin (a lot of people forget this). Pac has shown on a number of occasions that he can be out dueled and this would be the same exact scenario vs. Leonard. Only one fighter has ever out-boxed Leonard in his true prime, Hearns. (Duran outfought Leonard but Duran is better than Pac at infighting). Leonard UD12 (or 15)

Duran v Pac: Duran at LW or WW. Duran is consensus the greatest LW ever and I believe he's also in nearly everyone's top 10 P4P greatest of all time. He could maul, stalk, was extremely underrated defensively (rode shots, rolled with punches etc), great power, good speed, and when he got caught with shots, he took them. Duran was adept at negating speed and making the ring a smaller space where you couldn't hide no matter the ring size. Pac's defense isn't good enough to counter Duran's offense. Duran's defense is good enough to counter Pac's offense. Duran UD12 (or 15)

I like Pac and think he's definitely one of the greatest ever, the Fab 4 were all on another level. Their sizes and the fact that they were perfectly balanced as far as offense/defense (which Pac isn't) would be too much. You can look at how each of them went up in weight and continued to reign (just like Pac did in the lower divisions).

 

I just think Manny is far too small to be a good middleweight and Hagler`s reach advantage would be epic, plus he had a great jab, what other champs at 160 do you think Manny could have beat from past decades? Do you think he could have gone up to super middle?!

 

That's the reason I said Pacquiao wouldn't even made it to 135, Arguello would've finished Pacquiao in the lower divisions

 

I hope you're joking, Hagler is no Margaito.

 

The FAB 4 all beat him and all stop him. Pacquaio is too small for all of them and not as skilled either.

 

Pac in his prime wouldn't risk fighting the guys that were champ at 154. There were a few mediocre champ that he might have had a chance with and he still wouldn't risk it cause they are to damn big.

If he wouldn't take on guys no where near the talent of the fab four , why the hell makes anyone think he would even come close to beating the fab 4.

End thread.

 

And this is a man that knows the FAB 4

 

Pacquiao was undefeated in his prime, no one beats prime Pacquiao.

 

He can beat Duran that's about it.

He was too small really to be compared to.those guys.