Why won't the WBC make Wilder/Whyte?

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  1. Tankatron

    Tankatron Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Given that Wilder has almost exclusively fought in the States (and we all know how clean American athletes are), I wonder how many times Wilder has actually been tested. British fighters are pretty open with mentioning their latest unannounced visit from the VADA testers. Wilder would probably shoot his for trespassing.:mgwhore:
     
  2. Tankatron

    Tankatron Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Strange that Joshua is more than willing to fight his mandatories Pulev and Usyk with no hesitation or grandstanding.......and then we have Wilder...........
     
  3. derrick

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    Whyte is a overweight bum that got his ass kicked by glass jaw Joshua for God sakes. Wilder would KO Whyte within 3 rounds. Whyte is just to damn easy to hit.
     
  4. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    Whyte going in HARD on Wilder and Ortiz

    Rips them apart!!!!


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  5. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Show me where I have said they are bias?
    I haven't, so no idea why you are making yourself look a fool laughing.
    The ring ratings were the one mentioned on this thread but even if I went to boxrec for the top 20 even, it favours who Joshua has fought.
    This isn't my opinion. It is a fact

    I didn't say best resume either. I pointed to those ratings which many like to use and pointed out a fact
    Seems to have upset you



    why do I?
    I don't have to do anything.
    You are the one who seems to be liking their ratings and I pointed out a fact, asked you some questions and you haven't or can't answer




    Yet you favour wilder being above him for having a lesser resume, no unifications oh and when looking like he lost to Fury a fighter who wasn’t in anyone’s top10 the year before they fought (certainly not in the Ring’s)

    Another fact
    Which is why I asked you the question

    Sad you went all defensive instead of answering sensibly
     
  6. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    It's not all about photos and the photo shoots but also to do with advertising. I'm sure you can work that out and as said it was only a speculation based on some other similar things I observed.

    Now I have heard on here and agree when Fury beat wlad he did become the top he, but he was out of the ring for over 2 years so I can't see how he can be reinstated when the division moved on.
    So with your logic you indicate that Fury became the top man again for beating seferi on his comeback

    And remind me again who wilder beat greater than wlad who you site for Fury, Povetkin, Parker etc to be the next top hw?

    This will be good
     
  7. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    That was an interesting interview
     
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  8. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    You know its interesting when it starts off with “Wilder sucks”
     
  9. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Huh? Seriously? Just in the second post of the previous page, you said you stopped looking at their rankings and implied that they only have those rankings so that they can have an American champion. And in the very next post within the same page, you tried to make a case for Joshua having a better resume based on the Ring ratings. I mean, this is just in the previous page you moron.

    Yeah, I don’t mind the Ring ratings, I agree with them having Joshua at #3, behind Fury and Wilder. Joshua did unify, but against Wlad who was already beaten by Fury and Parker, who was a prospect with a belt when they fought. And longevity also matters, which is why Wilder is everyone’s top3, not just the American organizations. I told you why It made sense, and It doesn’t matter how you feel about the result of Wilder/Fury I, It’ll go to the records as a draw. And since they’re having the rematch, there’s no point in keep whining. And Fury was back in everyone’s top10 after his tune ups, Ruiz wasn’t relevant until he beat Joshua.

    And I didn’t go defensive one bit, your insane hypocricy was baffling so I pointed it out.
     
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  10. rorschach51

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    Wilder is getting into Stevenson avoiding Eleider Alvarez levels of steering clear of his #1 mandatory.
     
  11. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    You really are too stupid to understand
    If you really need a breakdown I can do it for you but with how sensitive you are, may view it as a dismantling job on yourself
    Let me know

    It's comical that you site hypocrisy yet rate wilder for longevity for not having fought at the level Joshua has fought at and site the longevity based on a disputed result because there will be a rematch over a year later lol

    Was Fury in everyone's top 10 for beating seferi and pianetta?
    Really
    Think about it and also note that you are mentioning Fury beating wlad some 3 years previously to suit your agenda
    That is longevity dummy

    Fury is my favourite HW at present
    I was one of the posters who did a thread for predicting Fury outpointing wlad and a thread for Fury beating Wilder, but I have to be fair and balanced and wilder had not fought at the level of wlad, Povetkin, Parker to name just a few.
    You comment on Joshua (who in 24 fights has the best overall resume, been involved in 9 world title fights and unified 3 of the titles) losing to Ruiz in his 23rd fight but praise wilder who didn't contest a title until after having over 30 fights and still never really won at that level who in his 23rd fight was facing 29-10 Beck, as longevity
     
  12. theanatolian

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    The one who got sensitive was you, kid. You’re the one resorted to name calling, and your hypocrisy is in the 5th page for everyone to see, but you’re too idiotic to cpmprehend with your own posts it seems. Fury is your favourite HW but given the hypocrite you are, you can’t rank him high because you’d have to give Wilder credit in case he won the rematch.

    I’m not praising Wilder. I gave him endless **** for the first several years of his pro career and his first couple of title defences. @BlizzyBlizz and I used to go at it all the time about it. I use longevity for Wilder’s 10 title defences, even though the last one questionable, that’s the longevity that I’m talking about. You factor in both the past and what have you done for me lately when you make rankings. Fury has the best single win in the HW division, came back to arguably beat and draw with the WBC champion. He’s the #1 HW right now. And yes, you’re probably too stupid to remember it but Ring, ESPN, TBRB, Boxrec all had Fury in top5 after he fought Seferi and Pianeta, unlike Ruiz who only became relevant by beating Joshua. Joshua is 1-1 this year with a guy who was out of Ring’s rankings just last year, Wilder has a draw(however you or I feel about the decision) with the former unified&lineal champion and is coming off of a win over a top10 HW. That’s why at the momentte deserves a higher ranking than Joshua at the moment.

    And every fighter’s prospect stage is different. Wlad was trying to regroup from his loss to Purrity in his 23th fight, that doesn’t mean every fighter who fought better opponents in their 23th bout should be ranked higher than him.
     
  13. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    Seriously guys, ever watched those old school zombie films? You know brain dead zombies cant even comprehend any form of communication..

    Yeah die hard Wilder fans are just that

    Whyte is number 1 for crying out loud and they pull every lame arse excuse in the book

    750 days go by and the excuses are:

    1. Should have fought Ortiz for an elminator .... a secondary mandatory position when breazeale was first in line
    2. Wilder fought Fury because its a bigger fight
    3. Should have fought Breazeale to get the number 1 mandatory spot
    4. Its just business, PBC are ignoring Whyte because they wont let matchroom control the belt
    Whyte has fought more highly ranked WBC contenders than any other fighter in the WBC

    Haymon and PBC must be making tons of cash from Wilder and 37k ppvs

    Forget Whyte at the O2 arena and 15 million dollars... thats way beneath the champ

    Forget fighting Whyte because he is the highest ranked WBC fighter that alone is not enough motivation

    Wilder sure doesnt act like a fighter... the rankings are there for a reason... you are supposed to fight each other... its kinda your job

    typical response to the above is “whyte should stop whining should have fought Orti”

    Give me a break... Ortiz fought Dave Allen instead when Whyte called him out befor he fought Allen
     
  14. yesihavearm2

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    It's not complicated as to why the WBC and PBC have not allowed Wilder to fight Whyte.

    It's because Whyte has a very good chance to beat Wilder, and Wilder has Haymon Protection Insurance © to ensure that the belts don't end up at Matchroom.

    PBC and the WBC will continue to milk Wilder for all he's worth (not a lot).
     
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  15. Aydamn

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    You don't think Wilder/Haymon/PBC could have made more money with Whyte and AJ then all these sidestepping and ducking for the past 3 years?

    Those guys barely break even on any revenue... **** poor PPV sales and promotions come on man..

    AJ 1.6 Million PPV's

    Whyte a PPV star by himself can give Wilder 750,000+ PPVs
     
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