If a boxer completely dominates a round but suffers a KD, how should the round be scored?

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If a boxer completely dominates a round but suffers a KD, how should the round be scored?

  1. 10-8 for the party that dominated but scored the KD.

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  2. 10-9 for the same, if you believe the adversary truly dominated, enough to completely offset the KD.

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  3. 10-10 if you felt the dropped party was so dominant as to have otherwise deserved a 10-8.

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  1. DavidC77

    DavidC77 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I've raised this point before. It seems as though a knockdown automatically results in a 10-8 round regardless of what happened in the rest of the round which I think is completely ridiculous.

    One possible scenario is that you have a round which is evenly contested and right at the end a knockdown is scored.

    Another is that one fighter is completely dominating his opponent, beating the hell out of him and has him on the verge of a stoppage.
    But at the end of the round, the opponent throws one shot in desperation and the fighter who has been dominating the round goes down but isn't really hurt and gets up straight away.

    Apparently the rules state that both rounds should be scored 10-8 to the fighter who scored the knockdown which is ABSOLUTELY LUDICROUS.

    If judges were allowed to use their own discretion (as they do in rounds when a knockdown isn't scored) then I would score the first scenario 10-8 to the fighter who scored the knockdown and the second 10-9 or 9-8 to the fighter who was knocked down.

    I don't see how a knockdown can completely override everything that happened earlier in the round especially when the fighter who scored it was having the sh*t kicked out of him.
     
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  2. DavidC77

    DavidC77 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I disagree.
     
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  3. ILikeBoxingForRealz

    ILikeBoxingForRealz Active Member Full Member

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    This
     
  4. Goose

    Goose Russian oligarch Full Member

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    It's a combat sport, if you are down you are putting yourself at a disadvantage. Even if you are jabbing well the whole round, the time when your legs turn to spaghetti and you're on the canvass, you lost that round. Unless you can come back with a knockdown yourself.
     
  5. Drew101

    Drew101 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Depends on how hard the KD is, and how dominant the other fighter is before and after that point.

    If a fighter is truly dominant and is forced to touch down with a glove as a result of being knocked off balance, you could easily call that 10-9. If a fighter is winning but not dominating, it's probably going to be called 10-8. That applies to Fury-Wilder Round 12.
     
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  6. DavidC77

    DavidC77 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'm not talking about jabbing, I'm talking about when a fighter is knocking seven bells out of his opponent and putting him at a disadvantage.
     
  7. piprules

    piprules Well-Known Member Full Member

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    How is a round scored if both fighters get a knockdown in a round?
     
  8. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    A & C are both categorically flat out wrong, and only idiots who DKSAB score rounds like the one you've described like that. You do not ever compulsorily deduct a point for any reason other than a foul.

    For anything from a dominant Wilder round to an even round, or even what in a vacuum minus the KD might have been a close but clear Fury round, you score 10-8 Wilder. If you truly feel that Fury dominated every second other than being dropped...you score it 10-9 Wilder. He still gets the net point advantage for scoring the knockdown, but instead of a 2-point swing he gets a 1-point swing. The way to resolve that, within the rules, is to make it 10-9 Wilder... never, ever, score a 9-8 unless the winner of the round who scored a knockdown also had a point taken by the ref for a foul. EVER.
     
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  9. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    Definitely 10-8 Wilder just from what I've seen happen before. Fury won the round. But I think judges usually only modify their scoring of a 10-8 round if the fighter that knocked the other one down gets hurt or at least beaten up, not just dominated. And I don't think Fury dominated anyway, although he did clearly win the rest of the round, before and after.

    Now, imagine if it was the same, but rather that almost KO'd, Fury was off balance and touched the canvas with his glove, you know, a weak knockdown. Do you think the judges would score it the same, 10-8 for Wilder?
     
  10. Dirsspaardis

    Dirsspaardis Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Weird or not, it’s a 10-point must system with an exception of if the ref docks a point IIRC.
    So if both have a KD it goes back to 10-10 and then the winner/loser is decided as per usual.
     
  11. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    10-8
     
  12. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    On a 10 point must they both go to 10-10 then is decided normally
     
  13. sid

    sid Boxing Addict Full Member

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    10-8 a knockdown is a knockdown as long as both don't go down.
     
  14. MVC!

    MVC! The Best Ever Full Member

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    NOT 10-8....

    That's the biggest problem with boxing scoring.

    You can't dominate someone for 2 mins and 59 seconds, suffer a knockdown and be 2 points in the hole.

    It's objectively bad. Whoever argues otherwise is a nutjob.

    Yeah so someone could be beating the breaks off this kid and the ref is inches away from stopping the fight, the dude gets hit with a shot (A soft knockdown) and suddenly he's lost the round 8-10 LOL.

    What a joke of a system!
     
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  15. zeratul

    zeratul Active Member Full Member

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    I assume that by domination we talk about rounds that are scored 10-8 even with no KDs. Which are extremely rare cases, often when the other fight doesn't land a single punch and barely throws. The only fight that immediately comes to mind is Klitschko - Briggs. I believe judges scored some of the rounds 10-8.

    In that event, by definition you cannot have a dominant round and get knocked down. Then the round is not dominant.

    Whether it is fair or not is a different discussion, but that's how things are.
     
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