Andy Ruiz v. Rocky Marciano

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by NoNeck, Dec 9, 2019.


Who wins?

  1. Ruiz ko

    23 vote(s)
    35.9%
  2. Marciano ko

    41 vote(s)
    64.1%
  1. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Size is not the defining factor here. It is skill, balance, speed and tendencies.
     
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  2. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Skill-Marciano
    Defense-Marciano
    Power-Marciano
    Chin-even
    Speed-Ruiz but u tend to think come round 4 Marciano (Ruiz won’t be able to breathe or keep up)
    Endurance-Marciano
    I don’t know where people see skill in Ruiz? Where is it? Guy has zero idea how to cut off the ring. Is much slower of foot then Marciano. Has zero tendencies to feint or mix it up. He throws the same combo in short bursts. And his defense consists of moving slowly side to side. This is a mismatch in favor of Marciano.
     
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  3. ray fritz

    ray fritz Active Member Full Member

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    Ruiz would KO Marciano
     
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  4. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    This is where the problem lies. How can a reasonable person even discuss the matter when one side thinks as above?
     
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  5. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Ruiz has taken harder shots than Marciano and demonstrated the ability to knockout bigger men.
     
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  6. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Only man of note taken out by Ruiz was AJ and his chin isn’t exactly solid.
     
  7. The Morlocks

    The Morlocks Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Garbage. About as right as a bad haircut
     
  8. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    Ruiz is 1-2 against World class men.
     
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  9. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Exactly. You’re so biased in your opinion you’re impossible to have a discussion with. I explained why Marciano has more skill. You just name call. Marciano could Perry a jab, close the gap, roll punches off his shoulders, great feints. Ruiz can do none of those things affectively. Those are skills in a ring
     
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  10. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    We aren’t talking about pfp chins. We’re talking about a guy who is physically huge. Wlad, Whyte and Povetkin failed to take Joshua out.
     
  11. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    Ruiz has the flab factor.

    1-2 record at world level.
     
  12. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Marciano is 0-0 against superheavies.
     
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  13. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    It's parry.

    sigh.
     
  14. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    ....and still UNDEFEATED!!!!
     
  15. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Nice deflection.
     
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