Andy Ruiz v. Rocky Marciano

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by NoNeck, Dec 9, 2019.


Who wins?

  1. Ruiz ko

    23 vote(s)
    35.9%
  2. Marciano ko

    41 vote(s)
    64.1%
  1. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Skill- Roy Jones Jr
    Defense- Roy Jones Jr
    Power- Ruiz Jr
    Chin- Ruiz Jr
    Speed- Jones Jr
    Endurance - Jones Jr
    Resume - Jones Jr

    5-2 in favour of Jones Jr.

    If they fought = Jones Jr in a crumpled heap within 6 rounds.
     
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  2. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Lol I wouldn’t bet on a prime Roy losing to Ruiz. But anyway chin would be a big factor in that fight. By the other Ruiz fight Roy’s chin was thought to be excellent.
     
  3. Pat M

    Pat M Well-Known Member Full Member

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    "unconventionally footed" The people who want to believe Marciano was a great fighter will take whatever he did and try to make it a strength. I've never seen a more off balance fighter than RM. The RM era must have been particularly weak for him to be champion and undefeated. Maybe there was no talent in the heavyweight division in the early 50s because of WW2/Korea? Marciano, IMO looks to have the skills of a four round fighter who loses another one as soon as his last suspension is lifted.
     
  4. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Rockista***
     
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  5. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Fact: Andy Ruiz has a better victory than anything Marciano has.
     
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  6. GOAT Primo Carnera

    GOAT Primo Carnera Member of the PC Fan Club Full Member

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    In fact I see Walcott in much better light than Rocky aginst Ruiz. But thats by BOXING on the backfoot.

    In fact you should fight a boxer like Ruiz, who is a durable quick handed brawler on the backfoot by BOXING instead of going toe to toe, no?

    What is Rocky doing here?
    He knows only one direction: Right into his opponent. This worked against his own diminshed after-war LHW-CW devision, BUT NO WAY against fighters 40-50lb heavier than him. STOP. THIS. NONSENSE! Rocky is 0 - X in such affairs. ITS NOT EVEN A GUESS HOW HE WOULD DO. WHY? Because there ain´t no 5`10" 185 high-volume street brawlers in HW since Liston, Ali, Frazier and Foreman stopped the post WW2 HW circus. Jake LaMotta is gonna beat Qawi and CW Bert Cooper too because of resume, he? Just how stupid do you think is this gonna get?

    Just stop this viral/mental "How would Bruce Lee do against Mike Tyson" idolisation-syndrome right now. Its pure horse ****.

    For the sake of quality boxing debates:

    GIVE.
    ROCKISTA.
    NO.
    CHANCE!

    Thanks.
     
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  7. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Negative. Walcott and Moore imo are better wins at this point then AJ. Charles is close as well. If AJ goes on to beat Fury and wilder thag May change my opinion.
     
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  8. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ruiz can’t bend his knees more then an inch or two nor can he change angles like Marciano can. You know very little about actual boxing (or Marciano)and your posts are embarrassingly repetitive. You sound like a guy who’s never actually boxed anyone. We would repeatedly box at my gym all types of guys from 160-300 hardest hitting guy was 195-200. Marciano beat plenty of guys over 200. There hasn’t been a 185-190 pound guy due to the cruiser weight division genius (besides Roy Jones). Your lies and obnoxiousness don’t actually deserve a reply.
     
  9. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    No that’s not factual at all. By comparison, Andy Ruiz just beat Rex Layne then lost the rematch.

    Beating Anthony Joshua had been impressive for for Andy. But let’s put that into perspective. AJ had some good wins..but only in relation to today. Let’s not measure this although Joshua had already beat Fury and Wilder before losing to Ruiz. That was certainly not the case.

    After losing to Parker already Ruiz beat Joshua who had established an enormous profile without beating Wilder or Fury. Anthony’s resume included a win over a comebacking Klitschko who was 42 and coming off a loss.
     
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  10. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    It's fascinating watching you people tear each other up. Seems to me that one side is about as lost as the other.

    Bit of an existential crisis this. Normally I rely upon the side making the more ludicrous claims as to who the right pick is (ie, the other guy).
     
  11. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    What do you mean by “you people”? :naughty2:
     
  12. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Various idiots.
     
  13. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    I am going with the dominant champion, over the one hit wonder.

    I understand that there are a lot of other issues involved, but this is the bottom line!
     
  14. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    so...Who ya picking?
     
  15. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Marciano.