Andy Ruiz Jr is not a natural full weight?

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  1. madballster

    madballster VIP Member Full Member

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    He's just fat with very little muscle. Looks like a typical bar bouncer.
     
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  2. Aydamn

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    Yeah Tyson was a genetic freak, 218 pounds at 5 ft 10 and ripped as a mofo. I been training half my life and I'll never get close to that and we are similar height.

    But young Tyson walked into the gym for the first time at 86 KG at 14 years old, so he was always a big dude/gifted.

    At 13 I weighed 54KG at 5 ft 10
     
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  3. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    Ruiz is big boned, he has a big frame. His whole family are like that... big boned, water retention/

    No way in one MILLION years could Ruiz get down to 180, thats asking way too much... realistically he couldnt get down below 220 and thats pushing it big time. I grew up with guys like Ruiz, I know the body composition well. At 95-100 KG Ruiz would like thin.
     
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  4. reckless

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    He says he was fat when he was a kid. I don't buy this genetic freak nonsense.

    The guy was more muscular than the likes of Joshua and Bruno but they get called bodybuilders.

    He was on roids plain and simple. I'm sure Cus got him on them from a young age so that he wouldn't be small and fragile like Floyd Patterson.
     
  5. UniversalPart

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    When Tyson left prison in 1999 (when he beat up a motorist) he left prison at 280lbs and in 2008 during Cannes Film Festival he looked massively obese.

    He has fat man genetics but how he has managed to slim down to whatever he is I'm not sure. You would have thought that with the amount of weed he is smoking he would constantly have the munchies.
     
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  6. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    If that were true, then Teddy Atlas would have blown that story up years ago. Tyson was 190lbs at age 12. Atlas frequently mentions it.

    When he first sparred with Bobby Stewart he was over 180lbs before he even met Cus D'Mato. How does a 12 year old kid from Brownsville Brooklyn get hold of steroids in the late 1970s?
     
  7. Contro

    Contro Boxing Addict Full Member

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    James Toney?
     
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  8. reckless

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    It would only make Atlas look worse in the public eye being involved with steroids. He'd never get work again.
     
  9. reckless

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    Does being 'big boned' give you a huge belly and huge t1t5? He is grossly overweight. I would say 40-50 kg overweight.
     
  10. Safin

    Safin Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Mike Tyson's muscularity gets overrated so much. He was never anywhere near as muscular as Frank Bruno. And when one is "ripped", it doesn't refer to hypertrophic muscle, but how lean one is - and Mike Tyson was quite lean, but never "ripped" like Frank Bruno.

    Andy Ruiz, even ripped at 7% body fat would struggle to get under 200lbs. He would be completely drained.
     
  11. Safin

    Safin Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    You're 100% right, but I think the guy is insinuating that he has a larger frame, which is certainly a valid point. Andy Ruiz isn't close to his 6'2'' billing, more like 5'11''. but he does have a larger bone structure than your average Joe. I would definitely wager that he is a natural heavyweight.
     
  12. BoJangles

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    as Heavyweights keep getting Fatter as the Roids Tests get better like Whyte, Miller, Ruiz, etc and the Roid Muscles turn to pure Lard they should invent a Super Heavyweight ButterBall Division with a minimum weight of 300 pounds and let those guys fight each other for new Alphabet Title Belts!
     
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  13. lucky luke

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    There are 5'11" lightweights but weight classes aren't based on height.
    Also, Ruiz being obese puts him in the same category as 40% of the American population, wich makes his physique more natural than the likes of Wilder or Joshua.
     
  14. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I'm your huckleberry, that's just mah game Full Member

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    It's hard to say how big Ruiz is because he's so grossly overweight. I suspect he'd be a similar size to Mike Perez without the flab, which would still make him a legit CW at the lowest. That's just pure guesswork though based on his height and a couple of markers like his head size, limb length, shoulder breadth etc. All very fuzzy non-scientific stuff.
     
  15. reckless

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    He'd make 200lbs easy. Like I said he's a minimum of 40kg (88lb) overweight. He was 280lbs in the Joshua fight. I think he's closer to 50kg (110lbs) overweight. Have you not seen the size of his moobs? There is some serious overhang on the sides.

    I have been 20kg overweight in the past and I didn't look anywhere near as bad as Ruiz. It's only when people go on a fat loss programme that they realise just how much fat they are carrying.
     
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