Sonny Liston vs Rockys Resume

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on paper he beats all of them but in all actuality probably slips up somewhere along the lines, maybe early in his career against Vingo, Ross or LaStarza. I also think Walcott would give him hell.

 

This. Somehow I doubt either Patterson or Johanssen ever stood a chance against Liston. Had he the chance he deserved, he might have ended up surpassing guys like Frazier as an ATG...

nah, I never got the feeling that Liston had that kind of heart. He might have beat Marciano in his prime, but Rocky had a heart. Louis, Holmes, Ali, Frazier, Holy, Lewis...better champions because of their hearts imo. Regardless of records.

 

I think Liston would have done well...though he would have probably lost a couple on the way. I don't see old man Joe Louis doing too good, for example...but Ezzard Charles was no joke.

 

He may have picked up a loss along the way and not sure he would beat the Charles in fight 1 or Walcott for the title in fact I don't think he beats them

 

Yeah, I think Charles might have foiled him. I would have LOVED to see JJW and LL scrap...just not sure if Joe could have taken a flush Liston rap.

 

No, hed never have Beat
Cassius clay, janitor

 

Remember Ali had not yet become the finished product.

 

Early rounds are always key and Walcott would move and counter - Walcott may have handcuffed himself to get ahead in a few close decisions but when the cuffs were off he went for the kill or killed them with technique - his battles with the Great Joe Louis were on the level - showing the greatness of both and his battle with Marciano 1 was on the level showing the greatness of both - Joe took some great shot and landed vs both ATG's his left hook vs Charles was spectacular but Walcott could do much more - he was loaded with talent and power and smarts

 

Jersey Joe was a great fighter, no question there. I agree with your analysis.

 

Marciano is on record as saying young Liston had faster feet than Walcott.

 

I'm surprised people think Charles might pull off the upset. I think Liston stalks him and beats him down.

 

Young Liston uses Vingo as a toothpick, and they probably wouldn't let little Eddie Ross step into the ring with him.

 

Charles could be a tricky fighter. He would certainly more than belong in the same ring with Liston imo.

Some might argue that Charles also had more heart than Liston.

 

Someone tell that to Marty Marshall