Why does Floyd not get the credit today for beating Manny ?

Would Andre Ward get credit for beating past his prime Floyd Mayweather? There is your answer.

The fact that Pacquiao was even competitive at 147 is unbelievable let alone winning titles there.

 

Isn’t Mayweather older though? It’s not like it was a prime Mayweather either...

Both in their prime would’ve been a fun watch but both were roughly in the same position so really, Mayweather should just get as much credit as Pacquiao would have had had he won...

 

It wasn't that dominant, just a normal win. I scored it 8-4 as did two of the judges.

And Manny was definitely washed up. It's just that a washed up Manny is still better than lots of fighters. Washed up Manny got knocked out by Marquez and lost to Tim Bradley

And Floyd has the size advantage, so it's not like it was a level playing field.

All in all still a great win for Floyd, but nothing to say that he is anywhere near the GOAT like some people make him out to be.

I don't really buy into the hurt shoulder excuse, but Manny did ask for some kind of anti-inflammatory for his shoulder before the fight, and was denied due to a "technicality" but everyone knows it's cause the fight was in Floyd's home town.

 

Because he waited for so long to make this fight happen.

 

Because we living in a capitalist society.

 

What if Andre Ward beats Mayweather?

 

Also, there is the size issue. I've never seen a fighter get so much criticism for struggles against much larger men. It's not that Pacquiao was fighting guys bigger than him naturally. That happens all the time in boxing. It's that the size differential was absurd.

We see Hagler getting some flak for knocking out Hearns and excusing Hearns for being too small, A 6'1" guy with an 76 inch reach, big enough to beat a prime Virgil Hill. He managed to get in the ring against Hill and not even look small.

Meanwhile, Pacquiao won the lineal Flyweight championship of the world and was/is expected to defeat if not dominate world class Welterweights. It's ridiculous, the hypocrisy.

Imagine if Inoue moved up at 36 to Welterweight and fought Terence Crawford and lost a close decision. The idea that Inoue would be an inferior fighter than Crawford p4p based off of that is astonishing. Which is why nobody would claim that to be true, outside of delusional fanboys.

 

Pretty black and white: Pacquaio's style of bouncing around, hitting from all angles, using uber agility for both offense and defense, trading punches with alot bigger men, take a HUGE toll on your body and their prime is shorter.
Mayweather's style, defense and safety first, an intelligent look to figure the fighter out, hit and not be hit, pop shot, using your legs as defense (not running but smartly boxing), ages like wine and is more preserving on the body which means they can stay PFP #1 until he retired smartly.
When both were in their prime - Floyd wanted no part of Pacman. Floyd was the draw and could have gotten a deal, ANYTIME he wanted. The whole BS needle thing, Pac is on roids, whatever, were all excuses. NEVER has Pac tested Positive for Drugs of any kind. Floyd even being the better boxer with all the advantages, did not want to lose that 0 - it was his biggest marketing tool.
So, when the fight was made, Floyd saw a slower, more cautious, more tentative, once KO'd, losing to lesser skilled fighters (Bradley), and Floyd made the move to finally make the deal once he knew he could win, with zero doubts.
Is the win still credible? ABSOLUTELY. Would it leave any doubters from believing he is TBE if Floyd beat Pac in their prime? ABSOLUTELY. Beating this version of Pac, do I personally thing Floyd is TBE? NOT EVEN CLOSE but still credible none the less.

 

Pac was not in his peak anymore, and many people, myself included, didn't think Floyd won.

 

Neither was Mayweather.

 

He gets credit from me. But it wasn't a schooling like some say. It was actually a bad fight with few punches landed. Floyd won most rounds because he landed a bit more in each. No schooling.