Liam Williams is going to be a problem at middleweight.

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  1. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Yeah just focus on one part of the post

    And Heffron was highly regarded over here in the UK
     
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  2. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Having said all this, however - bear in mind, Fox sucks.
     
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  3. f1ght3rz

    f1ght3rz Ronaldoooo is crying in his caaaaaar Full Member

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    EVERYONE is highly regarded in the UK. Even Tommy Fury is highly regarded. And Tommy Fury is the biggest bum on earth. I would beat Tommy Fury and i had like 20 amateur fights in the regional scene and nothing else.

    But tbf...you have great promotional skills. You should ask Frank or Eddie for a job. You can hype up fighters with some insane arguments although - tbf 2.0 - Williams deserves some hype. He's pretty good.
     
  4. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    No they're not

    And you conveniently ignored the part of my post where I said Heffron hadn't really fought anyone. But fact is he was highly regarded over here and a lot of people were picking him to beat Williams going into that one

    lol Paris Fury would put you to sleep with a jab
     
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  5. f1ght3rz

    f1ght3rz Ronaldoooo is crying in his caaaaaar Full Member

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    1. No, the hype in the UK is unreal. Even bum prospects are hyped up. I watched Franks card last night and they had a guy who made his pro debut, he looked like a bigger version of Okolie but was even worse. The commentators were hyping up the guy like he's a world class prospect. This dude could barely punch straightly. Horrible. The UK is #1 in the world hyping up every bum who put on some boxing gloves. Look at Josh Kelly. The guy wasn't even a good amateur on international level. He lost to anyone half decent in the amateurs internationally and still promoter and TV broadcasts acting like he was a world class amateur. And he's looking trash as a pro too. Just beat up some bums early but with stepping up the opposition he lost to Ray Robinson and was eating big shots by short notice journeyman this weekend - and lost a couple of rounds. He's simply not good. Average.
    2. I was just picking Heffron quote because i was laughing HARD about the fact it was mentioned. Heffron was another fake prospect who already looked like trash prior Williams and was stopped rightfully by a much better and superior opponent (Williams). I wasn't really mocking you, just laughing about the phrase. No offence man. Maybe it came across wrong but it wasn't against you or your post. I think you wrote a lot of true words in there.
    3. Nope, Tommy Fury is a bum. He's really, really bad. I train with guys who would stop this dude inside 1 round. No joke. Just the truth. But of course he looks good while beating up short notice glass cannons who are probably not even training between fights. Just grabbing the Hundreds of cash to pad up records.

    PS: The hype around Williams is legit tho. He beats guys like Andrade or Charlo.
     
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  6. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    OK no worries.

    We do tend to hype our fighters over in the UK, I say ''we'' but I don't recall hyping many duds in my time. The vast majority of British fighters I hype actually have something about them.

    Heffron was a big MW/SMW, a decent amateur, and he had a reputation as a banger, and although I personally didn't know much about him going into the Williams fight, I do know he was held in high regard over here and that he was allegedly avoided. I wasn't trying to make out he was held in high regard on the world stage.

    I've only seen Tommy box twice IIRC and both times he fought complete tomato cans so there was nothing to take from that. I've only ever hyped him for his looks (no homo). Hence why he currently resides in my official top 10 P4P most handsome boxers ratings :lol:

    Agreed. Williams has real skills and savage power and he's very much legit.
     
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  7. f1ght3rz

    f1ght3rz Ronaldoooo is crying in his caaaaaar Full Member

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    Yeah, i wasn't exactly referring to you. I just think the hype in the UK is a bit over the top. They hyping up literally everyone with a pulse. Best example was the dude yesterday who made his pro debut, looked horrible there and the commentators tried to sell him as a world class prospect. That's ****ing horrible.

    Heffron is a big guy and a brawler, yeah, but he has absolutely ZERO boxing skills and fight iq. He was highly regarded because he was hyped up by beating up some bumbs and old, shot fighters like Andrew Robinson. I think UK promoters doing great job in padding up the records of their "prospects". I saw Heffron a couple of times prior Williams and i thought Williams will absolutely destroy him. I had a massive bet on Williams in that fight, he had odds between +185 and +200.

    Tommy Fury looking good, yeah, he has the Josh Kelly appearance, very marketable, but he sucks in boxing. And if he ever steps up, we all get official confirmation of that. He's all looking good as a human being froma a sexual point of view + has the name Fury on his side. It's enough. You don't have to be a good boxer with that combination. So Frank can sell him to the public as another great prospect from the Fury boxing family. But he sucks hard.
     
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  8. Scissors

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    He’s good and looks a lot better at middleweight. Let’s not forget he was comfortably outboxed by Liam Smith who seems to get zero credit on here. I’d like to see him against a Jeff Horn before getting in with Charlo/GGG/Derevyachenko and I’m backing Eubank to beat him if they meet in the near future.
     
  9. Reppin501

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    I like him too, think he could be a real problem for anybody.
     
  10. LoadedGlove

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    Excellent post.
     
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  11. LoadedGlove

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    Liam is dead genuine. He would give anyone a tough night. I just think he's a bit mechanical, one paced and predictable. Hope he does well though.
     
  12. kirk

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    So Im completely ignorant on him... just looked him up... I see he's lost to Smith, twice. The smith that Canelo got **** for fighting and then cakewalked him.

    So what am I missing. Was that a robbery? Hard to envision someone losing to Smith twice going on to be a problem at middleweight.
     
  13. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Smith vs. Williams I Notes:
    • Smith failed to make weight, therefore unable to claim the interim WBO World super welterweight title and the WBO mandatory status.
    • Williams up on the scorecards until a head butt from Smith caused a nasty cut on Williams eyelid. Williams trainer Gary Lockett pulled him out following the cut.
    • Many people were unhappy with the decision of the fight and a rematch was rescheduled for November 11th in Newcastle.

    Prevailing opinion was that Williams should in fact have been awarded the victory by DQ. The rematch was, IIRC, a controversial majority decision for Smith. A lot of people have been clamoring for the last couple of years for a third meeting, so that Williams can have a chance to prove himself once and for all officially the better man (as is the impression of most that have seen the first two fights).

    Either way, Smith did run Williams close both nights, but it might just be a case of Williams being a significantly better fighter with a higher ceiling but Smith just being his kryptonite and somebody that would always give him problems (if not ever quite legitimately beat him) with his particular bundle of styles & intangibles.
     
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  14. kirk

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    Excellent. Thank you.
     
  15. Dannymita

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    Who the **** rates tommy fury??!?!?! Lol
     
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