Your top 5 smartest boxers?

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  1. heerko koois

    heerko koois Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Hector Camacho is up there.....
     
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  2. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very feel me good. Full Member

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    Right now:

    Lomachenko
    Usyk
    Inoue
    Fury
    Crawford

    Outside the ring smarts I have no idea. How do you even begin to measure something like that?
     
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  3. sid

    sid Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No Super Joe he beat your no1 lol.
     
  4. northpaw

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    Outside the ring:

    Barrera
    Juan Diaz
    Juan Marquez
    Nathan Cleverly
    Wlad

    Inside the ring:
    Floyd
    Bernard
    Toney
    Mccallum
    Juan Marquez
     
  5. KernowWarrior

    KernowWarrior Bob Fitzsimmons much bigger brother. Full Member

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    I say Audley Harrison showed good smarts, he got a million pound contract from BBC to show his first 10 fights, he got several high profile sponsorship deals and made reasonable purses yet was not worth the money, so making over the odds money with limited ability is damned shrewd.
     
  6. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Reading doesn't make you "smart", its basic education that any peasant/citizen can get in the factory set-up for them by the owners...
    • High IQ is raw intelligence (example height -without basketball skills-)
    • Reading is simple education (example knowing the rules of basketball)
    • Smartness is implementation (example becoming an MVP basketball player)

    This hurts the ego of many people, but the obvious smartest boxer of all time is Floyd Mayweather, he did it his way...against the plots & master-plans of higher IQ promoters & the ill intent of boxers doing everything possible to give him an L

    Both in the ring & outside the ring Floyd Mayweather wins this

    If you want to mention your favorite boxer, who spent a whole year reading a book to get a degree, call him educated. Lots of those...surely lots of low IQ folks & dull peasants with PHD degrees & lots of debt.
     
  7. titanic

    titanic Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes. Smart enough to know who to avoid / duck just to keep his 0 loss. Agree. :cool:
    But still needs to learn how to read otherwise considered as ILLITERATE :D
     
  8. vast

    vast Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Loma
     
  9. eltirado

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    If you look at history the illiterate folks are the bread & butter of literature

    Literacy is mandatory to teach peasants/citizens their duties, laws, rules & directions.

    Floyd Mayweather gets a spot with the illiterate Greats (read about them)
     
  10. eltirado

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    If your last name is Cleverly, you should have a high IQ... Also with a last name Piper you are surely packing...

    150 IQ & 12" on the Grandiose resume, obvious connection there

    They show up in the casting 7.5" & blame it on the hot lamp lights & the Japanese tea they had that morning...
    99% of 150 IQ claimants get counted out by an 11 years old Singaporean kid who never had time to get an IQ test...
     
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  11. Slowhand

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    Curtis Harper. You know why.
     
  12. greenhornet

    greenhornet Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That is mostly what 70's Ali, and every version of Holmes and Lewis did too.
     
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    greenhornet Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Floyd- pisses away his money gambling and making stupid videos burning and wiping his ass with 100's. Klitschko's-,millions in charitable contributions to Africa. Including helping build a Hospital if i remember right.
     
  14. eltirado

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    Sounds like a smart way to spend money,

    Wlad & Vitali are obviously more Pro-Social, but Mayweather is smarter...
     
  15. Tramell

    Tramell Hypocrites Love to Pray & Be Seen. Mathew 6:5 Full Member

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    1. Cassius Clay/Ali
    2. Hopkins
    3. JMM
    4. Whitaker
    5. Mayweather


    Clay/Ali fighting Williams was a window to what we missed when he got banned. He did it ALL. His feints allowed him to set traps. Could execute leads & counters which were razor sharp. His jab was superb but relied on it more post 1970. His Reflex allowed him to dart inside & outside giving the gift of combos & pre-1970 he went to the body. Advanced class. Not talking Post 1970, not even the Foreman fight. Against Big Cat he fought coming forward doing what Frazier did, which was bob n weave. Against Mildernburgr he used an overhand repeatedly. Against Terrell- he just whooped him all night using everything. Versatile fighter until forced to retire.

    Hopkins & JMM Both proved they could diffuse a variety of styles.

    Can't rate Burley top 5 with one fight recorded. I could rate Pep top 5 but those guys he beat were too many eras away to know if he could do it today.

    Like to ...but I Can't put James Toney top 5 cause his game was inside. & he was way to inconsistent. Came in gr8 shape Peter II and I'l be damned Peter didn't slug to win he boxed & stretched JT's game to extend his arms. Smart fight by Peter who lost the 1st one, but I gave him the 2nd. Smart fighters don't balloon up to near HW, then crash diet to fight the fight of his life vs RJJ. That's a doe-doe bird move.

    Can't put PBT @ #1, rather #5 As he will always be hands down the best negotiator. He fought greats when he felt time was right- Like Ray taking on Hagler- He said it himself, when he took Marvin out to dinner (Legendary nights) + it was watching his war with Mugabi that he said yea! To me that is Floyd. Could Arum had hampered negotiations as well? Could be. + I'm Not sure on the argument of hand injections either but I can stand on the fact his last 12 years were all in Vegas. Has to be a reason, just can't nail it.