Holyfield vs Wilder

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  1. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    Either you don't know probability or you don't know boxing.

    Possibly both of the above.
     
  2. Flash24

    Flash24 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Whom had Wilder KO'ed who was on the level of Foreman, or that version of Bert Cooper. Wilder is as overrated as they get.
     
  3. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Nonsense. Only Johnny Risko could beat Wilder.
     
  4. Tramell

    Tramell Hypocrites Love to Pray & Be Seen. Mathew 6:5 Full Member

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    I like those percentages! ;)
     
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  5. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    You can't give your own estimate, then ?
     
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  6. Boxing2019

    Boxing2019 If you want peace, prepare war. banned Full Member

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    99.9 % you are wrong :eusa_dance:
     
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  7. Oakland Billy Smith

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    Well contrary to most of the' 'experts' on here, I at least give Wilder a lucky punchers chance.
    Of course I will concede Holyfield outboxed, outfights, and possibly even stops Wilder..... Holyfield was notorious for getting hit with monster shots throughout a fight.
    Foreman tagged him hard, as did Bowe, Lewis, and several others. Holyfield was great at recouping and fighting back, but if Wilder could land on him and daze him, it might be all over for Holyfield....
    Of course I am only giving that outcome a 10% chance at best
     
  8. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    Like I said, you don't seem to understand probability.
     
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  9. Hannibal Barca

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    Evander should win this 7/10 times.

    I don't think fighting long range is wise against Wilder, who comes into the ring with a .50 caliber sniper rifle. Wilder has established he has excellent late round power, and has exceptional range with his right hand, so staying in the sights of the .50 caliber rifle for 36 minutes is not going to end well for Holyfield.

    Foreman had some success against Holyfield when they clashed inside due to his 257 lbs of freakish strength which Foreman used to repeatedly push Holyfield off balance back into medium range which is George's preferred distance. For all of Wilder's vaunted punching power, he lacks physical strength and the skills to apply it. I would expect the game plan from Holyfield camp to mimic the one from the Tyson fights, and I would favor a late tko for Holyfield.
     
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  10. sauhund II

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    This is cake......you cannot be possible that dumb......are you trolling ?

    Holyfield would use the Tyson blue print ? How? Clinch and clinch and clinch with the occasional counter punch against ba 5'10 opponent who just walked in without head movement or a jab ? Tyson was a shell of his former glory. ..had never after prison a 12 round gas tank...fact.......he did not beat ANYBODY of note before facing Holyfield............Wilder has a 7 feet kill zone you have to go thru..plus got 5 inches on Holy in height......has poor footwork but excellent foot speed......amazing hand speed for a Big guy.....and is 100% switched on when he fights and last but not least , is not washed up or is coming out of the can after 4 years......has a 15 round gas tank.

    On more time, Holyfieled cannot deal with a jab and needs you to come to him, if he has to be the aggressor his goose is cooked.........one more time he is 1-3-1 against the two best big man he fought who had a jab and could punch. End of.

    Lacks physical strength ? Log off.....who ever has Wilder muscled around......500 pounds of Fury/Ortiz etc could not but 210 Holyfiled will, lol, he could not back up Bowe and Lewis in 5 fights.....
     
  11. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I doubt Wilder would be able to take Holyfield’s left hook
     
  12. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wilder has no jab.he lacks fundamentals, Holyfield is the much better boxer
     
  13. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Wasn't there that ex college football player??
     
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    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Yesterday at the gas station.
     
  15. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    (cracking up!)
     
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