The lesson of 2019 is that size is not so important

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  1. GGGfans

    GGGfans Active Member Full Member

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    Of course we already knew it, boxers such as Tyson, Pacquiao, Povetkin and so on had already proven it, but we still have a lot of cases this year.

    Canelo (1m73) clearly dominated Jacobs (1m82) and knocked out Kovalev (1m83).
    Ruiz (1m88 officially and probably rather 1m85) knocked out Joshua (1m98) and held twelve rounds in rematch.
    Ryder (1.75m) gave a very difficult fight to Callum Smith (1.91m). Many believe that he deserved the victory.
     
  2. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    Jack Dempsey showed us this almost 100 years ago when he beat Jess Willard to a pulp. It’s nothing new.
     
  3. Boon

    Boon Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Lee McGregor vs Kash Farooq.

    McGregor was much taller, longer reach, much much heavier but still got dominated.
     
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    TEAM_LOMA This is Boxing Full Member

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    Size does matter.
     
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    Brockton Blockbuster Credit where its due banned Full Member

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    Whoever said it didn't?

    The thread says not so important which is to say size alone won't carry the day.
     
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    Bustajay Feel the Steel/Balls Deep Full Member

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    Been telling the women that for years :bananaride
     
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  7. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    It is the single most important factor in boxing. Bar none, end of period.

    Loma wouldn't even crack the top 500 in the HW division. Seriously.
     
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  8. destruction

    destruction Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yes there are still people out there who claim the super HWs (HWs above 6 foot 5) are unbeatable monsters who could never lose to anyone shorter than them.

    Look at the conversations going on around Usyk at HW
     
  9. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Skill beats size.
     
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  10. Heavy_Hitter

    Heavy_Hitter Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Most of the time a good big guy beats a good smaller guy.
    AJ easily beat Ruiz in the rematch.
    Kovalev was shot. Prime Kovalev clowns the roid midget.
    Povetkin lost lost to Joshua and Wlad, but looks good against fighters his own size even in advanced age.
     
  11. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    This.

    "A good big fighter will always beat a good smaller fighter".
    -- George Foreman
     
  12. jm2729v

    jm2729v Active Member Full Member

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    Depends on the extent to which a tall fighter uses his height and reach effectively against a smaller fighter.
     
  13. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    Nope.

    All those examples are exceptions.

    Size is and always will be important.

    Providing a couple examples throughout the year where smaller fighters are victorious doesnt negate that size is usually a very large influence on outcomes.
     
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    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This goes without saying, but I think when people say “size not so important”, they mean that a great small fighter beats a good big fighter.
     
  15. GGGfans

    GGGfans Active Member Full Member

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    Ruiz had a bad rematch fight.
    I agree with Kovalev.
    Klitschko should have been disqualified against Povetkin and Joshua struggled despite Povetkin's age.