Picture of Sonny Liston and Rocky Marciano

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by The Undefeated Lachbuster, Apr 14, 2019.


  1. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member

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    So he didn't face any ,is that right or wrong?
    Yes or No? It's a simple choice.
     
  2. mcvey

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    I doubt Marciano hit any harder than Cleveland Williams, and possibly not appreciably harder than DeJohn or Valdes. And I''m absolutely certain Marciano never faced a puncher as hard hitting as Liston!
    In fact I don't think Marciano faced much at all in the way of heavyweight power! Walcott who else?
     
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  3. mcvey

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    Its fine , but your dislike is misplaced, I didn't complain about you, nor request you be banned.
    I am glad your anti-Semitic remarks about Jews got you a ban but I had zero to do with it.
     
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  4. SerbianLoudmouth

    SerbianLoudmouth Overhand right-Suzie Q Full Member

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    Are you stupid or something?I said it before and I'm gonna say It again!
    If Satterfield and Simmons stated that Marciano hit harder than Williams then case is closed!You are no one to say that those fighters said wrong thing!
    DeJohn and Valdes????They are nothing and their KO ratios is low!Comparing them to Marciano is stupid!I know that you hate Marciano but cmon man...don't be so stupid!
    Williams,Dejohn and Valdes never knocked or defeat any HOF!And their KO ratio is low!Comparing them in power to Marciano is stupid!
    Luis hit just as hard as Liston and Marciano sparing partner Satterfield according to Ezzard punch just hard as Liston!Satterfield knocked Williams worse than Liston!
    You bring Dejohn,Williams and Valdes and comparing them with Marciano because they fought Liston is stupid!
    Marciano is not only stronger and harder puncher than them but his chin,stamina and heart are much better than their!
    Clearly you don't know too much about boxing and better educate yourselft!
     
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  5. mcvey

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    1.Satterfield never fought Marciano nor did he spar with him.
    2.Charles never fought Liston
    3.. Show me a verified quote from Keene Simmons where he says Marciano hit harder than Williams?
    4..Louis was washed up when he fought Marciano
    5..You think fighters opinions about others power are the be all and end all? Then read below
    Cokkell said he was hit harder by others than Marciano.
    Moore said he was hit harder by Satterfield and Durelle.
    Charles said he was hit harder by Satterfield, and Marshall.
    6.Marciano was beating up old men who were the equivalent of today's cruisers.
    7..You think ko percentage is the definitive indication of a fighters power? You don't think who he is hitting ,their size age,class affects the results?
    8.Williams was a 20 years old last minute substitute when he fought Satterfield.
    ps You have the right User Name , it suits you!
     
  6. Brockton Blockbuster

    Brockton Blockbuster Credit where its due banned Full Member

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    Number one, I don't believe you, nor does it matter (as you basically condone it.)

    Number two, what "antisemitic" post did I supposedly make?

    Number three, whoever banned me left me a cute little message when I tried to sign in to the effect of "when you return, don't put this down to being a Jewish conspiracy." the irony of which made me chuckle, considering my last comment had the quote "to know who rules over you, see who you aren't allowed to criticize."
     
  7. mcvey

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    I did condone it ,I think your remarks about Jews were unacceptable.Whether you believe me or not doesn't mean jack **** to me as your opinion is valueless to me, and I have no respect for anti semites.
    This is what I presume you were banned for and quite rightly!
    Below.
    "Apologies for having a heightened sense of perception and observation; I notice patterns and I'm not afraid to call them out. Weill isn't the first Jew I've read/seen/heard about to rip off a Gentile and laugh all the way to the bank whilst doing it. Doesn't the Talmud clearly state how Gentiles are open-game "cattle" to be used and abused by the "chosen people" and/or the self-acclaimed master race* that happens to be the Jews?



    Did Weill or Goldman have the physical or mental fortitude to go through the wars and risk potential death or brain damage the way Marciano did? I think not; nor should they be entitled to anywhere near the same spoils. Also, you should probably know when Al Weill stiffed Marciano and "fellow Jew" Goldman, Marciano paid out of his own pocket for his trainer's expenses. That's a miser? You're a tool.



    You can lay that brand on me a million times and it'll bounce off me like water on rock. I've noticed far too often that brand being an antonym for pro-truth. For such a "meek, humble, innocent, oppressed" and small-numbered people, Jews sure have an awful lot of power in closing down their opposition/critics* and aren't afraid to use fear/anti-free speech or even violent tactics to do so. Truth and justice will always prevail."


    Its telling that you dont deny your anti Semitism ,in fact you seem rather proud of it..
     
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  8. Brockton Blockbuster

    Brockton Blockbuster Credit where its due banned Full Member

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    Of course you do, you're married to a Jew (why you told me that I don't know) as all it's done is demonstrate to me and the world that you are emotionally compromised on the subject. It's only natural for you to think my views are "unacceptable" and if my opinion is so valueless, why go to the ridiculous time and bother of reading and replying to them? You care a lot about what I'm saying to the point of reporting me. If I'm so ignorant and "hateful" then what have you and/or the mods got to worry about? Just laugh at me as the "foolish peasant."

    The old "I care a lot, but I'm gonna make out like I don't." gag.

    You are savvy in one regard; hysterically branding your critics as "anti-semites" will get them shut down pretty quick, just like you did with me, which really proves that there's absolutely no rigged or egregious bias in favor of Jewish interests within our society (right or wrong.) Don't you find it mildly irksome how Jews have their own personalized term for supposed discrimination i.e antisemitism; yet blacks, whites and other races do not? Let's see how long it takes for one of the knee-jerk mods to read this and martyr me.
     
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  9. mcvey

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    Correction I was married to a Jew been divorced for 20 some years my partner now is Irish.
    You're the only poster I've read here who made an anti semitic post.Ive never accused anyone else here of
    anti Semitism. If you're banned again, it won't be because you're a martyr, of that much I am certain lol

    If you get banned again will you blame me for it? lol
     
  10. Brockton Blockbuster

    Brockton Blockbuster Credit where its due banned Full Member

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    LOL I'm not even gonna touch that one.

    Again, I don't believe you and to make such a lofty claim such as that sounds like a cheap attempt to vilify me.

    Not necessarily but I will, as I already do, think you're a pathetic cuck/weasel of a man.
     
  11. mcvey

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    You wont find another post of mine accusing anyone else of anti semitism,only yourself.
    I couldn't care less what you think about anything .You disqualified yourself from any relevance to me when you came out in your true Nazi colours.I neither knew you'd been banned or cared, its quite possible you got the push for something else.IDGAF.
     
  12. Brockton Blockbuster

    Brockton Blockbuster Credit where its due banned Full Member

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    You're about 60 going on 70 and you're using the tactics and vernacular of barely adolescent SJW's; get a grip.
     
  13. mcvey

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    Anti Semite.
     
  14. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Cleveland Williams power never showed up in professional boxing, when he moved up in class he lost or won decisions- He was 31-1 when he was KO'd in 3 rds by 5'10 175lb Bob Satterfield and Big Cat was unconscious for several minutes so YES Marciano hit harder than Williams by far also harder than Dejohn and Valdes who was beaten 2X by Moore, Dropped for a 9 count in the 10th losing a UD to the same Bob Satterfield who ko'd Big Cat -the same Satterfield Ezzard Charles KO'd in 2 rds and Rex Layne also KO'd -Valdes also lost to 5'10 175 lb Harold Johnson and Bob Baker who was KO'd by light heavyweight Champ Archie Moore

    The key is how well a fighter does when he moves up in class- Liston looked impressive to me but was KO'd 2x by Ali 1- quit so not sure how Liston would react to a real puncher- we know how he reacted to someone who had no fear of him Clay/Ali

    also Yes he was old but Leotis KO's Liston by fighting inside his reach
     
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  15. Seamus

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    Shocker... A died in the wool Marcianista is a bigot.

    Connect the dots.