Vasyl Anatoliyovych Lomachenko Vs. Josh Taylor @ 140 — Who Wins And How???

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Vasyl Anatoliyovych Lomachenko Vs. Josh Taylor @ 140 — Who Wins And How???

  1. Loma By T/KO

  2. Loma By Decision

  3. Taylor By T/KO

  4. Taylor By Decision

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  1. Pakkuman

    Pakkuman I'm not hot. I'm just BIG. banned Full Member

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    Since Taylor is now w/ Top Rank, it's certainly a fight that could happen if Vasily wanted it. Who wins and how?!
     
  2. Rilz

    Rilz Ball don't lie! Full Member

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    Taylor too big man, these 2 should not fight, Taylor would dwarf him. Top Rank would never make this fight.
     
  3. Pakkuman

    Pakkuman I'm not hot. I'm just BIG. banned Full Member

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    Campbell and Linares dwarfed him as well. And JTT isn't considered to be some kind of monster.
     
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  4. GeorgeDeservesAMedal

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    Loma schools him to a UD. Then certain idiots will claim Taylor was “Never really that good” while also saying Loma “Struggled” with him because he got hit a few times.

    Same old **** different fight.
     
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  5. Pakkuman

    Pakkuman I'm not hot. I'm just BIG. banned Full Member

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    Why does George deserve a medal?
     
  6. Rilz

    Rilz Ball don't lie! Full Member

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    No way, Taylor is on his way 147. He is quite bigger than Linares and Campbell. This would be comical. They are heading in 2 different directions as far as weight is concerned. Loma already hit his max in my eyes, Taylor is only moving up.
     
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  7. pistal47

    pistal47 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I wouldn't ever rule Loma out against any fighter until the comparisons started reaching the top 5 elites at 147. I'm not saying id favor Loma, but I think he is so great that he would be able to make it interesting at the least.

    Loma's footwork, foot speed, intelligence, judgement and understanding of range, distance, and positioning, skill, speed, and head/upper body movement has continuously been able to largely neutralize the size disparity between he amd his opponents at LW by almost always having the fight at a distance/range where he is most affected, least vulnerable and his positioning and constant movement has almost always put him in position to win more exchanges and keep from being hit by big power shots or any shots that can really hurt him because his positioning is so good, he can anticipate what they will throw, and he makes them doubt and second guess throwing anything big because of his constant movement and prodding.

    Its a shame most people have little to no understanding of how truly great he is and how amazing it is what hes doing. I dont understand how any other fighter could be p4p #1 there than him, considering hes the only dude fighting elite fighters in a weight class that his 2 full classes above his natural weight and doing it almost certainly as clean as any fighter. Mikey Garcia, if he can return to form, is the only guy that could possibly unseat his p4p ranking imo.
     
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  8. pistal47

    pistal47 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Love both fighters. Taylor is a VERY GOOD bigger guy. Loma is a GREAT smaller guy. I'd say it's pretty much a toss up.

    Taylor would do what Taylor does in any and every fight: come forward, force his way in so the fight is in a phone booth, and light off blistering and brutal hooks to the body and head, all the while leaning his huge frame on his opponent which tires them out.if he could do this against Loma -- Taylor wins and possibly by stoppage. If not, Id say Loma has a good shot at winning.

    Taylor has fast hands but like Canelo his feet are noticeably slower. They aren't slow or even average, probably slightly above average, but that's Loma's main strength as a fighter and hes so adept at exploiting it. Its boxing so no one knows until it happens, would be a dust up though.

    BTW -- something to keep in mind: Loma pieced up multiple elite pros or on verge of elite status who are world champs and fighting at 140 and above as an amateur. Jose Ramirez -- the guy who has a big claim in as the best fighter at 140, got tuned up at least 2-3 times by Loma as an amateur. Ya, I know the am's are the am's and pro's are different, but they arent THAT different. They are close enough that if one fighter noticeably outclassed another in the Am's, thats a good indicator to go off of to base your prediction on in a fight as pro's. Im not saying squeaked by or won close but competitive, I'm saying CLEARLY outclassed.
     
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  9. MrTombourineMan

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    I'll go Loma by close decision.

    I like Taylor, but thought the Prograis fight could have gone either way and there were a few rounds where, like Campbell against Loma, he froze up a bit whenever Regis upped the pace.
     
  10. Pakkuman

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    WTF do you think Pac has been doing for almost 15 years?
     
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  11. pistal47

    pistal47 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Juicing his balls off.
     
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  12. Boon

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    Josh Taylor would KO Loma but Loma would never have the guts to fight him in the pro ranks anyway.

    All this rubbish about Taylor being too big for Loma... What lies. Taylor is only 3 to 4 inches taller. So many great, and not so great, fighters have faced opponents much bigger than themselves. Loma is building a weak resume and making excuses, and his fan boys are worse. He is 5 ft 7 1/2 in. Hardly a dwarf, he could easily go to 140, hell there are even 147 fighters that are shorter and smaller, including ex-champions.
     
  13. Pakkuman

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    Proof?
     
  14. pistal47

    pistal47 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I dont need any and I'm not trying to convince anyone to agree with me. I've been I highly competitive athlete my entire life between football, basketball, and boxing. I've seen countless athletes cycle and abuse various PED's. There are clear and unmistakable signs that someone is juicing and Pac fit close to all of them. No one can tell me that the guy who lost to Morales the first time was the same specimen thereafter. The guy who lost to Morales was visibly heartbroken in the ring and inconsolable. He was not wealthy and he was from a 3rd world country. His life and the lives of his family depended on him and his success in boxing. Someone with their back against the wall like that, in that situation, they arent gonna juice because of some moral stand? Ya, right. And in that era nobody was tested to begin with. He turned into such a superstar that even when testing was implemented ge was untouchable just like FMJ. He had no options but to make it in boxing. I know he juiced.

    Sure everybody is different, but not THAT different. When fighters start climbing weight classes furiously, bone structure start changing and their entire physique changes in record time, they put on impossible amount of lean muscle in record time, and their speed, power, strength -- everything noticeably increases and in turn nothing lags -- they juiced. You dont have to believe me (sure you won't) or agree but those are facts that I KNOW from years of experience in highly competitive sports.
     
  15. northpaw

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    Taylor by decision, very good big guy >>>>>>>> phenomenal little guy that has reached his size limitation.

    Lomachenko is really at the most a SFW. What he's doing at LW is simply because of talent level and skillset over everyone else but I don't even like him at LW TBH. He's not big.
     
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