More impressive? Ali beating Foreman or Mayweather beating Pacquiao?

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  1. wutang

    wutang Active Member Full Member

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    There's so much debate around who really delayed the fight that I dont know who to blame anymore I'm a huge manny fan but the cut off date for bloodwork was weird and floyd is...well, floyd, he is very calculated about the terms of fights and their timing is always in his favour. We got the fight, I thought it was lackluster. But yeah, the win did not have the same impact it would have in 2010. We've all heard the same arguments as to why. So you're right, that probably would have been his defining moment IF he had won, and that's a big if.
     
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  2. Oakland Billy Smith

    Oakland Billy Smith Active Member banned Full Member

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    Well look, Pac was a better fighter than Foreman, but Clay did beat him when he was on top of his game.
    I'll have to go with Clay vs Foreman on this one
     
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  3. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Manny was older and already knocked cold by Marquez. Ali over Foreman is much much much much greater..
     
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  4. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Ali KO'd Foreman Legitimately
    A juiced to the gills Mayweather BARELY beat an injured fighting in pain sabotaged Pacquaio That fight should be stricken from the record book & Floyd banned for Ped use
     
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  5. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    • Build up
      • Ali vs Foreman had a few years with Frazier getting involved
      • Floyd vs Pac had more years of buildup than most fans wanted
    • Dramatic Outcome
      • Ali vs Foreman had the most dramatic outcome possible
      • Floyd vs Pac result was expected
    • Dramatic Income
      • Floyd vs Pac greatest payday in sports history, attracted big attention to boxing
      • Ali vs Foreman Don King pulling off the miracle of making it and swindling Foreman while at it
    • Public Anticipation
      • Floyd vs Pac was more anticipated because more people wanted to see Pac beat arrogant Floyd
      • Ali vs Foreman was anticipated but many thought Ali was done
    • Public Reception
      • Floyd vs Pac opening bell was a nerve wrecking moment for millions of casuals
      • Ali vs Foreman was done in Zaire lots of people, but boxing was popular & Ali was already a star
    • Public Perception
      • Ali vs Foreman Perception is the most influential in sports history, it influenced world leaders, future world leaders, Elites & peasants-Citizens alike who took notice of the power of boxing, some dictators outright banned boxing out of fear of the popularity of an upcoming strongman, some dictators befriended boxers, Don King became a household name that will have a big role in boxing & public life, Ali became a legend, Foreman turned the big failure to a bigger success.
      • Floyd vs Pac influence is yet to be examined, but its less impressive than Ali vs Foreman
     
  6. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    Clay, huh?
     
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  7. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That would have made it very dramatic if Pac KTFO Floyd like many fans wished/hoped, that is the dramatic equivalent to what actually happened in Zaire
     
  8. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Pac wasnt given a chance of winning. The IV debacle proved almost certainly that Floyd was on Peds Then Pac was denied his promised Toradol, a permitted legal pain killer but Floyd was permitted his Xylocaine pain killing injections. These I believe are illegal in most other states but Nevada changed their rules obviously to suit Floyd their cash cow
     
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  9. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Jesus, what was so impressive about Mayweather's decision over Pacquiao?

    I mean really, what is so impressive about one shot, clinch, one shot clinch...…...rinse, repeat process????
     
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  10. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Both were on PEDs (which helped them move the extra weight at Welter), but it didn't improve their performance

    Minimumweight Pacman vs Super Featherweight Floyd

    Mayweather was the naturally bigger guy
     
  11. rski

    rski Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ali was seen as a god by many when he beat foreman, it was one of the most spectacular, unexpected displays in boxing history and will be remembered in 200 years time. Mayweather was seen as a cherry picker who took his fight with pac 5 years too late and boxed his way to a safe victory. So....
     
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  12. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Both were older when they fought. . Pacman was diminished as an opponent after the Marquez fight. Ali beat a young prime Foreman. That was a real accomplishment.
     
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  13. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    lol what??

    Ali beating foreman is EASILY among one of the best wins in boxing history and was a serious upset at the time

    silly question
     
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  14. Skins

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    Mayweather-Pac was just a pitty-pat money grab. Ali-Foreman was a historic classic. Come on
     
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  15. Chiefit420

    Chiefit420 New Member Full Member

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    Mayweather vs Manny would be like Ali fighting skinny ass bob Foster and there's really no comparison because Floyd an overrated bum who should've annihilated Manny so Ali vs foreman gets the nod and it's not close