Where does this idea come from that Fury is such an intelligent, 'High IQ' fighter?

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  1. Oakland Billy Smith

    Oakland Billy Smith Active Member banned Full Member

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    What does that even mean?

    What is so intelligent about his style? He's big and ackward, which makes him tough to fight, yes...

    But i've never found him to be particularly well at cutting off the ring, his defense is nothing special, he doesn't have the ability to time his opponents like a Mayweather or B-Hop, ....
    for such a big powerful guy he can rarely put his punches together enough to end a fight, and he spends entirely too much time showboating rather than engaging.

    What exactly am I missing here?
     
  2. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    His use of feints, angles and awkward movement to school Wladimir Klitschko...
     
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  3. Rilz

    Rilz Ball don't lie! Full Member

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    Man, we get it. You hate Fury. Does this really need to be its own thread?
     
  4. Oakland Billy Smith

    Oakland Billy Smith Active Member banned Full Member

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    No, Wlad fought timid because for the first time in his life he was the smaller man in the ring
     
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  5. Lesion of Doom

    Lesion of Doom Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He is very, very good at calculating exactly how much offensive work he has to do in order to win each round. He doesn't win many rounds convincingly but doesn't lose rounds convincingly, either, and he has been able to pace himself just enough to maintain movement for 12 rounds. This strategy obviously backfired to an extent against Wilder, because while most had him winning he didn't create sufficient separation and left himself vulnerable to the draw after the two knockdowns.

    This particular trait doesn't make him the most inspiring HW, but it has served him well. When you think about it, most long-standing and unified champs are very good at mitigating risk. Wladimir and Lennox certainly knew how to do it, as did Ali and as did Holmes. You generally won't have a long reign trading at heavy or relying too much on KOs, which is why the Wilder/Joshua era has been so interesting. They have been exceptions, although Joshua took a more traditional, risk-averse approach in Ruiz II. It's less exciting but is likely to serve him well.
     
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  6. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well it wasn't but ok....
     
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  7. Pakkuman

    Pakkuman I'm not hot. I'm just BIG. banned Full Member

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    I've only heard people say Fury is very athletic for a woman of her size... Never heard nothing about high ring IQ.
     
  8. sid

    sid Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Be looking for your posts when Fury takes care of Wilder,no-one has stopped Fury as a Pro he always got up.
    I can't see Wilder doing this in the 2nd fight.

    The only way Wilder stops Fury if that cut opens up again & the ref say that's enough.
     
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  9. Forza

    Forza Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    higher iq than mayweatehr
     
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  10. panchman69

    panchman69 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You gotta have high ring iq to avoid getting kod by a guy as big, explosive, powerful as wilder for 12 rounds.
     
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  11. Holler

    Holler Doesn't appear to be a paid matchroom PR shill Full Member

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    The division he fight's in.
     
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  12. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    He has a high ratio of intelligence inside the ring vs. outside the ring.
     
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  13. tee_birch

    tee_birch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don’t think it was that. Wlad is a technically correct fighter so the unorthodox movement and feinting of Fury had him constantly resetting.

    For Fury to befuddle Wlad like that is skillful.

    I still see it as a non fight though. Nothing actually happened in the whole bout.
     
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  14. Heavy_Hitter

    Heavy_Hitter Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Just like Bermain Stevern, who happens to be the only other top 10 fighter
    under the age of 55
    that Wilder fought
     
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  15. Jackman65

    Jackman65 FJB Full Member

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    He knows how to maximize his strengths very well and has a good understanding of boxing. Awkward but he moves his feet well, controls distance and is hard to hit flush. I’m amazed by his skills and ring IQ. He moves better than any big man I have ever seen. When he’s focused, he’s a great (albeit boring) boxer. When he clowns, he takes huge risks but I guess that makes the fights more exciting. If he had Klitchkos discipline, he’d be unbeatable.
     
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