How do Mike McCallum and Sumbu Kalambay do at Middleweight pre Robinson

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  1. Eye of Timaeus

    Eye of Timaeus Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Against the usual suspects of LaMotta, Hostak, Steele, Zale etc.
     
  2. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Really really well.

    Both lose to Steele and LaMotta but both beat Zale and Hostak imo. Apostli and Graziano too.
     
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    Eye of Timaeus Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I agree but the Hostak and Graziano fights are very dangerous for Kalambay. Both hit alot harder then Nunn.
     
  4. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Eh, both were alot smaller and slower than Nunn and neither were as good at boxing. I think Kalambay could keep the two of them at bay. Although I do see your point
     
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    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    They wouldn't do bad imo, both mostly durable and skilled. McCallum v Lamotta would be interesting. Zale against Kalambay, Tony puts the heat on but loses on points.
     
  6. mcvey

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    In the decade preceding Robinson at middleweight ,[1940s] we have the following guys;
    Moore
    Abrams
    Belloise
    Williams
    Chase
    Basora
    Hostak
    Burley
    Apostoli
    Booker
    Cocoa Kid
    Sands
    Villemain
    Cerdan
    Lytell
    Charles
    Apostoli
    Lamotta
    Garcia
    With such a wealth of talent ,I think its very possible both get lost in the shuffle,particularly Kalambay, who wasn't exactly a crowd pleaser.
    Talent wise I feel they could hold their own and get a ranking, achieving more than that would be extremely difficult in such a stacked decade.imo
     
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    They lose to them. Steele was kod in 1 round in his prime at age 25 so maybe they beat him. But Zale would show McCallum what body slugging was about. Kulumbay loses to them all. LaMotta and Zale are all time greats.