Andre Ward is a greater fighter than Floyd Mayweather, allow me to explain

Well deserve FOTD. But i’d still favor floyd if we’re talking about whose career is better.

 

You'd make a pretty good attorney!

 

Between him, Floyd and Canelo, I also thought Ward should get FOTD. But unless you were born in 2010, there’s absolutely no way is he overall greater than FMJ. Yeah, Pac was 36, but one can easily argue that 36 year old Pac was a better p4p fighter than Kessler, Froch and even Kovalev. One can also easily argue that Floyd’s win and performance over undefeated Corrales is better than any single win/performance Ward has and that Floyd’s run at 130>Ward’s run at 168.

So, even without taking Floyd’s wins over Hatton, Cotto, Castillo, Canelo, he most definetly is greater than Ward.

 

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True.
The argument usually goes down the rabbit hole on 'how' the fights went down. I suspect if there were no lowblows or questionable calls the antagonist always finds the glass 1/2 empty metaphorically speaking.

 

And he had 3 top opponents, only 3 elite level fighters in an entire career. For Floyd, the same number would be 13 or 14, some of them not at their best, some were.

As I said, Floyd’s run at 130>Ward’s run at 168. Let’s say It’s even for the sake of the argument. Then you’re left with Kovalev for Ward, and than Pac, Canelo, Cotto, De la Hoya, Mosley, JMM, Castillo, Hatton, Maidana, Judah for Floyd. Are you really saying that fighting Kovalev near his best trumps all those names with a straight face? Give it a rest.

 

This decade dude...

 

What what if’s?

Yeah, Ward fought 3 elite or near elite opponents close to their best, Floyd fought about 15 elite or near elite opponents, some at their best like Corrales and Hatton, some are not like Pac and ODLH( though there’s a very strong case for that version of Pac being a better win than Froch or Kessler). There’s absolutely no way Ward with 3 notable opponents is above Floyd in terms of p4p greatness. You’re just clutching at straws.

 

No, see his post above. Tinman is trying to argue that Ward’s career is greater than Floyd’s overall.

 

What you’re doing is nitpicking their careers and turning a blind eye to the parts that don’t fit your narrative. That most certainly is not how you define an ATG. In addition to fighting all the past prime greats you listed, Floyd also fought guys who were a cut above the rest and in their prime, just like Ward did with Froch, Kessler and Kovalev(and a lot of people argue that Kessler was NOT at his best when he fought Ward). You covering your ears and repeating the same things not gonna change that.

 

I swear it’s unbelievable sometimes how much age is over analyzed by boxing fans. It’s like there is zero point in fighting anyone past the age of 33 because you’re going to get zero credit for it even if that fighter is coming off great performances.