Floyd wins BWAA Fighter of Decade

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  1. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Pac was never dangerous to pbf dummy thats a myth. This same so called dangerous pac got beat by a faded em and couldnt beat jmm clearly in 4 fights if you cant beat jmm clearly in 4 tries then you're not beating pbf period.:deal: btw pbf was older and more shot than pac was when he schooled him.

    Canelo had over 40 fights was the unified champ at 154 and top 10 p4p ranked fighter when a 36 year old past prime pbf in his 5th weight class who was dwarfed in the ring beat him. Canelo weighed a whole 1 pound less than he did in his previous fight yet to an irrational hater like you he was dead at the weight.

    Guerrero isnt even a top 10 win for pbf but for most fighters he'd be in their top 5. Just shows you how deep his resume is.

    Pbf didnt avoid shane clown if anything it was the other way around. do you just make up stuff to be heard and to spread your agenda? You couldn't possibly have been following boxing for more than 6 years. Log off until you know what **** you're talking about here because grown folks are talking.
     
  2. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Ok now you explain to me how anyone could vote Mayweather ??
    1 ...He hasnt had a SERIOUS FIGHT since 2014
    2....You cannot count May/Pac on May 2 2015 due to obvious IV illegalities
    3....That was SIX years ago since then "retirement" & circus events
    4.... " Mr Mayweather did nothing wrong" does not absolve him
    5.... He had a better decade 2001-2010 but Pac beat him then Too
    He came to a sports event here a few years back along with other stars from sports. Not one of the HS sports stars knew who he was except ONE
    He said " Thats that little dwarf that fought The Big Show on WWE he was funny cannot remember his name though"
    Nuff said LOL
     
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  3. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Pimp didnt believe the boxing writers decision when they voted GGG over Canelo in both fights. He said " Boxing writers are just that they dont know fighters & how to score a fight" But when it suits his agenda he's their #1 fan ROFLMAO @ Pimple
     
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  4. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Log Off Pimp Youre getting your ass handed to you. LOL
     
  5. PIPO23

    PIPO23 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    BWAAHAHAHA. Trainers and boxers probably have a different opinion. Boxing writers association are no fighters just a bunch of journalist.

    So who cares! I respect fighters and trainers opinions more as they hold more weight. As they are involved in the sweet science.

    Journalist can choose whoever just to suit them. Don't sweat ace.
     
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  6. Pimp C

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    It's not about how long you fought in a decade it's about who you beat that decade and pbf has the best resume of the decade with the exception of ward. I don't want to hear that ridiculous thing about not counting the pac fight the fight counts pbf won the BWAA counted it the record book counted it even pac counts it those are facts if you dont like it too bad get over it. Your opinion about it not counting is irrelevant the voters didnt consult with CJ before they cast their ballots when will you realize this?


    To continue to argue against facts and reality is a sign of mental illness you sound like a flat earther. Even when presented with facts and reality you refuse to accept it. It's insane and not normal behavior of a well adjusted person. Im really starting to think you might be on the spectrum real talk.

    I can imagine you sitting in your rocking chair in a dark room saying pbf didnt beat pac it didnt happen it didn't happen over and over and over and over again.
     
  7. Pimp C

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    You dont believe pbf beat pac a fight not anywhere close as ggg-canelo 1 i scored the first fight a draw and the second for canelo. Btw i already said i would have picked ward as fighter of the decade dummy. Nice try though.
     
  8. Loudon

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    Quoting stats alone isn't enough.

    Mosley and Cotto were nothing more than good wins.

    The fight with Ortiz was BS.

    The C-W with Canelo was BS.

    The Maidana wins were very good, but he struggled and there was the BS with the gloves.

    Manny was injured and there was the IV scandal.

    The McGregor fight was a circus.

    Ten fights in 10 years.

    That's weak for fighter of the decade.

    Despite his losses, Manny was more deserving.

    He fought Marg who Floyd would never have fought, even if the title was BS because of the C-W.

    He fought prime guys like Bradley.

    He came back from a devastating loss against JMM.

    He fought Floyd injured.

    He fought a prime Thurman.

    He's fought regularly and has never shirked a challenge.

    Canelo has also done well apart from where Oscar delayed the GG fight, as well as the meat scandal and the CW's etc.
     
  9. Loudon

    Loudon VIP Member Full Member

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    There's no comparison between Floyd and Ray's wins.
     
  10. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It's both.

    As far as resume, Canelo and Ward are in the same ballpark. The BWAA apparently ranked Canelo higher than Ward so there's that.
     
  11. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    That's fine there's a great case for canelo to be fighter of the decade he won fighter of the year and will probably be the favorite to win fighter of the current decade.
     
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  12. NoNeck

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    I'm just saying Guererro was pfp according to The Ring.
     
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  13. Pimp C

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    I didnt realize that.
     
  14. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Mayweather ducked a Canelo rematch. As a result of Mayweather ducking a Canelo rematch, Canelo had no choice but to fight in Non-title fights. There's nothing wrong with fighting a non-title fight at a "catchweight" because there's no titles on the line. This is what people aren't getting. For example, is it Daniel Jacobs fault that he fought Chavez Jr at 173 lbs? They changed the weight after Chavez didn't make weight. There were no titles on the line so it didn't matter.

    Obviously being allowed to weigh more than your opponent is an advantage, obviously be drained is a disadvantage. None of those things happened when Canelo was fighting at 155 lbs in non-title fights. There were no titles on the line, there was no draining of opponents, so there's really nothing to criticize about that.

    Now when Canelo fought Cotto, who was holding the MW crown, Cotto demanded the fight be at 155 lbs as he was doing even before he fought Canelo. So Canelo won the MW title at 155 which wasn't his demand. At that point Canelo had never fought above 155 lbs. The delaying of the GG match which was Oscar's decision true had to do with the fact that Canelo had never moved up to MW yet despite winning the title for Cotto. So he'd never fought a guy that big before, and he was being asked to fight the most devastating puncher in that division (GGG) as his FIRST true Middleweight fight? Isn't that asking an awful lot out of somebody who had been fighting at JMW for years?

    He may have still been holding out hope that Mayweather still would grant him a rematch at 154. Since Mayweather never gave him a shot at winning back his 154-lb title, he wanted to move up to MW as a 154-lb champ, so he fought Liam Smith won a 154-lb title THEN was ready to move up to fight GG. He had a tune up vs Chavez, which was at a catchweight but remember that catchweight was 10 lbs above where he fought Smith at AND wasn't for a title.

    This is very different than what Floyd did (vs Canelo) which was to demand a catchweight when both fighters were already 154-lb champs. A non-title fight at 155 or having a catchweight 10 lbs higher than he ever fought at are reasonable examples of catchweights. We need to understand that catchweights for title fights especially ones where there's a draining of a fighter involved is the problem. These are completely different than catchweights for non-title fights where the weight doesn't matter.
     
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  15. Loudon

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    Do you think the Floyd-Canelo fight warranted a rematch?

    When I mentioned C-W's, I was referring to where Oscar tried to get GG to accept one.

    Yes, I expected Canelo to fight GG straight after Cotto. He knew going into the Cotto fight that he was fighting for the title, as well as the obligations that came with it. You either fight for the title or you don't. You can't fight for it, celebrate winning it, parade yourself as the champion, and then try and dictate to another other MW title holder who was also the mandatory challenger. Although I do believe it was Oscar's doing.

    Regarding Floyd, it was a disgrace to demand that another title holder had to come in under the limit. Especially as he'd beaten Oscar at that weight, and he'd said that he didn't care what Canelo rehydrated to. It was complete BS by Floyd.