Don Cockell in the 80s

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by GOAT Primo Carnera, Jan 20, 2020.


How far would a Don Cockell go in the 80s?

  1. Undisputed Champion

  2. Title Holder

  3. Contender

  4. Journeyman

  5. Don Who??

Results are only viewable after voting.
  1. KasimirKid

    KasimirKid Well-Known Member Full Member

    2,247
    3,383
    Jun 1, 2018
    In his prime as a heavyweight, he was too tough and had too much stamina not to make it out of the first. He was not the greatest fighter in the world, but he was too good to not deserve defending against what I consider a cheap shot.
     
    Charles White likes this.
  2. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

    97,767
    29,160
    Jun 2, 2006
    Cokkell was stopped 6 times prior to the Marciano fight.
    How many punchers do you think he faced at heavyweight? I'd say 4 at most ,3 of them stopped him.
     
    swagdelfadeel likes this.
  3. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

    19,123
    20,642
    Jul 30, 2014
    Frazier was tougher and had better stamina (Evan at that stage in his career) against Foreman than Cockell ever did. Furthermore Tyson knocked out 40 percent of his oppenents in the 1st round, the majority of which I consider better than Cockell.
     
    mcvey likes this.
  4. KasimirKid

    KasimirKid Well-Known Member Full Member

    2,247
    3,383
    Jun 1, 2018
    I have no doubt Tyson would have stopped C-ckell, but not in the first round. I think the fight to judge him by was the Marciano fight when he was in the best shape of his career as a heavyweight. Don took a lot of punishment before Rocky got to him in that fight. What I objected to in swag's post was his blithe dismissal of Don as a Bruce Seldon type of opponent. I hope to see that C-ckell receives what I judge to be deserved recognition as a courageous fighter who battled to overcome a serious chronic metabolism condition which affected his weight to rise to his position as a legitimate contender. Even while I recognize his limitations, I will continue to be vigilant in responding to unwarranted swipes at his reputation.
     
    Charles White and Cecil like this.
  5. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

    19,123
    20,642
    Jul 30, 2014
    Not gonna lie. Half expected Choklab to vote (genuinely) vote undisputed champion. :lol:
     
  6. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

    97,767
    29,160
    Jun 2, 2006
    I'd pick Seldon to beat Cokkell, and with some confidence. Cokkell was at his best at around177/180lbs and he was still floored , beaten up and ko'd by light punching Jimmy Slade.
    NB Nobody is ,or should question Cokkell's courage .
     
    swagdelfadeel likes this.
  7. KasimirKid

    KasimirKid Well-Known Member Full Member

    2,247
    3,383
    Jun 1, 2018
    That may or may not be, but Cockell would have lasted longer against Tyson than Seldon did and would have gone down swinging rather than cowering as Bruce did. That is the issue presented by swag's and your posts, not whether Seldon would have beaten Don.
     
  8. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

    97,767
    29,160
    Jun 2, 2006
    Cokkell would certainly not have given in ,but I doubt he would last any longer than Seldon did
     
  9. KasimirKid

    KasimirKid Well-Known Member Full Member

    2,247
    3,383
    Jun 1, 2018
    I guess the timing by history was never quite right for us to see who is correct in that regard!
     
  10. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

    97,767
    29,160
    Jun 2, 2006
    True
    Tyson stopped Spinks,Frazier,Tillman,Stewart,Williams in the opening round.I'm doubting brave Don could do much better.
     
    swagdelfadeel likes this.
  11. KasimirKid

    KasimirKid Well-Known Member Full Member

    2,247
    3,383
    Jun 1, 2018
    He'd only have to do a half round better! I think he would. Throughout this entire discussion I have been assuming that the C-ckell-Tyson fight would have been a title fight and that Don would have brought into the ring the same determination, experience, and conditioning which he brought to the Marciano fight.