Should Fury be aggressive against Wilder?

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  1. Big Ukrainian

    Big Ukrainian Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Fury is constantly talking that he is going to fight Wilder on the close distance... In his case, of course, words means nothing - he often does exactly opposite to what he talks. But, in your opinion, what tactics should Fury chose for this fight?

    Wilder has amazing power, but without leverage it doesn't look so impressive. His power didn't look otherwordly against fighters who kept it close even though they were very limeted fighters, definitely not top 10 - Johannes Duhaupas and shot Chris Arreola. Surely, Wilder stopped both of them, but he needed a lot of time to do so and tons of landed punches. And both of them finished the fights on their feet. Without that leverage Wilder's power clearly isn't as destructive. It's still might be enough to KO Fury though since both Duhaupas and Arreola have better chins compared to Tyson. But Fury is much bigger and way more skilled than both them, so maybe it will be worth for him to risk and chose more aggressive tactics against Wilder? He knows how to fight at the close distance, he has pretty good infighting skills including shorts hooks, uppercuts, body punches and holding.
     
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  2. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very feel me good. Full Member

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    He should approach the fight the same way he did the first one, but put a bit more mustard on his shots when he sees an opening. Jumping on Wilder from the opening bell would be dumb and likely to see him get dropped more than the other way round, but most everyone that elected to keep things long with Wilder in the early rounds survived into the latter parts of the fight. Fury just needs to get the jitters out early on then start slowly pouring on the pressure as the fight goes on. He does that and I see a late rounds stoppage on corner quitting.

    The danger comes early on, so that's when Fury needs to play it safest.
     
  3. Tramell

    Tramell Hypocrites Love to Pray & Be Seen. Mathew 6:5 Full Member

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    IMO Fury just isn't a high work rate fighter. Being aggressive means expending energy he usually reserves. And if he goes inside- Wilder has stopped foes inside like Liakhovich. And when the Duhaupas fight was stopped Wilder was throwing uppercut after upper cut. In other words he didn't need leverage because he wasn't extending nor throwing his str8 right hand.


    Fury IMO did nothing wrong 1st fight. What I thought happened was he got caught. He didn't get lackadaisical. Out of 70 punches landed- Wilder will land one str8 & flush.
    Fury has to be on guard & perfect for 3 minutes of every round. Wilder just has to land flush.
     
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  4. Frankus

    Frankus Active Member Full Member

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    No, he should not. If he trades heavy with Wilder he will get caught and I expect the hand of god will not reach down and pick him up this time around. If he fights smart and boring (as pure usual), he wins a comfortable UD.

    I think a wilder KO is better for boxing as a sport. Fury fights are almost always flat out snore fests.
     
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  5. Vykus

    Vykus ɹoolɟ ǝɥʇ ɯoɹɟ ʍǝᴉʌ ǝɥʇ Full Member

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    Fury will be aggressive... if its Marcellos Wilder, every other active fighter worth his salt, Fury is on the bike, out of range on the move, just like every other post getting floored fight of his career. Has a chin made in China.
     
  6. Bustajay

    Bustajay Feel the Steel/Balls Deep Full Member

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    Sure why not increase the odds of getting KTFO before the 9th so yeah pressure Wilder:ibutt
     
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  7. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    But Wilder dropped him in the last round.
     
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  8. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Fury is training with Manny Steward`s relative because he wants to learn how to sit on his shots and land the right hand, he said he can`t expect of fair decision as he feels he won the first fight and he has a case because of one of the judges giving the first fight to WEilder by a wide margin.
     
  9. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Fury fought at a fast pace v Wallin and was an all action fighter early in his career.
     
  10. f1ght3rz

    f1ght3rz Ronaldoooo is crying in his caaaaaar Full Member

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    Fighting Wilder in the close distance is the right thing. Because Wilder has no inside game at all. He needs to dictate the pace AND the distance to land his big right hands. His counterpunching only works vs. slow guys with no head movement (Breazeale). Because he lacks educated footwork he also not very good in creating the perfect range for his right hand if the opponent is a very good mover. One thing Fury should definitely think about is AVOIDING ANY SHOWBOATING BULL****. The first KD in the first fight was immediately after he did some bull****. Total clown mode. I know it's hard to get a Fury without clowning and showboating around in a 12 rounder, but if he wants to win the ****ing fight, he should really think about that.

    Fury has clear advantages in every deparment but power. I heard Abner Mares and Shawn Porter talking about "Wilder improved as a boxer"....i mean, wtf did they watch? Wilder winning 5 or 6 rounds vs. Ortiz? Come on. Ortiz schooled Wilder for the first half and then got sloppy and Wilder caught him with a bomb. There is a reason Wilder was LOSING on all three cards at the time of the stoppage. Wilder can't box for ****. If Fury raises his output and avoids clowning he has this in the bag IMO. His output wasn't that high in the first fight, many close rounds in terms of output so they gave a couple of rounds to Wilder and so we got the DRAW. I still have Fury the clear favorite in the rematch. But Wilder is live every time he steps in the ring. His power is legit and he can literally deadshot you with one punch from nowhere.
     
  11. Malph

    Malph Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes. He should fight more aggressively.

    I have a scheduling conflict on fight night and hope the fight the ends early. Which it will if Fury comes out aggressively.
     
  12. sid

    sid Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Can I ask who's stopped Fury this quote I don't get.
    (It's still might be enough to KO Fury though since both Duhaupas and Arreola have better chins compared to Tyson)
    When Fury gone down he's always got up so how can Duhaupas & Arreola have better chins.
     
  13. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    Fury is a better fighter on the inside, once there he’s safe and can win rounds smothering Wilder and landing the cleaner work. Problem is getting inside...That trip can get real bumpy, real fast.
     
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  14. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very feel me good. Full Member

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    Well done. Well spotted.
     
  15. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    Fury needs to inflict more harm in Wilder by putting more mustard on his punches in order to stop him and avoid getting robbed in Vegas.