When will Canelo fight a young prime fighter .

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  1. Paul1970

    Paul1970 New Member Full Member

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    Dress it up like you want but the guy is cheat and handpicks his fights like he always has so berbertev is 35 so why didn’t he fight him then ? So I’m a goon because I disagree with you ? What a ***** you are fella
     
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  2. acie2g

    acie2g Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So pretty much according to you Canelo has to fight every top 3 fighter from 160-175 to be legit... who do these guys have to fight to prove themselves to you?

    Berterbiev has 2 maybe 3 real top quality fighters total..
    Smith has like 1 or 2 GGG outside of Canelo throwing him a bone has 1 good name on his record... het somehow they proven and dont have to do anything but the guy whose beaten more championship level fighters than all 3 combined needs to prove more lol.
     
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  3. Jackman65

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    You are not very smart. Canelo has made a habit of moving and fighting the weakest guys at SMW and LY. People aren’t saying he needs the fight the best but where would you rank Rocky Fieling at SMW? Is he in your too 3? You think Kov is the best LH? He’s looked bad, in decline for a while and might be out of boxing. Did he get old and faded after the Canelo fight or do you think he was cherry picked as an easy opponent? I don’t think Canelo needs to fight Beterbiev to prove he’s a great fighter. Canelo has already proven that but he should fight him to prove he’s a legit LH, versus a guy who targeted an aged and faded opponent to cherry pick a belt. He proved he can beat a guy at LH on the downward slide and a lower ranked SMW. If he’s serious about those weights he should at least fight a top opponent. We already know he can snatch a belt. Does he need to do it again?
     
  4. Jackman65

    Jackman65 FJB banned Full Member

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    Not me. Let the younger guys fight. GGG is running on fumes and Kov is shot to bits. Kov needs to retire and focus on his sobriety and legal issues. Beating him proves nothing.
     
  5. Jackman65

    Jackman65 FJB banned Full Member

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    You are a special kind of stupid. Keep kidding yourself and rewriting history. It’s your style and seems to make you happy.
     
  6. Jackman65

    Jackman65 FJB banned Full Member

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    He’s a prime fighter at 35 and I doubt Kov would last two rounds with him. It’s no wonder ginger balls stayed clear of AB. Even the corrupt judges on the golden shower boys payroll couldn’t save Canelo from Beterbiev.
     
  7. Bigdog2002

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    When they start out pricing themselves
     
  8. acie2g

    acie2g Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Dude Kovalev was up vs Canelo at the time of the stoppage and was coming off a KO win vs a young prime fighter...I mean really dude Kovalev had 2 controversial fights with Ward a guy who finished 3rd in FOTD voting the first fight the majority felt he won and the second felt was stopped to low blows and fouls by Ward. Took a loss to Eldier then came back to soundly beat him in the rematch..dude at the time of the Canelo fight was either #2 or 3 in the division and was and is the most decorated fighter at LHW. Who is jumping 2 division to fight a top 3 Champ?
    Ppl are calling GGG faded right now you think Crawford or Spence is jumping up 2 division to stop GGG right now fu<k no... Manny pacquiao is 40 years old you think any 135 fighter right now can jump up to Welter and beat Manny not at all...

    As far as Fielding do I consider him a great fighter no dude was like the #6/7 SMW and a Titlist personally I think Canelo should fight Saunders or benavidez as I think they would be easy unification fights... but real talk for all the flacks about Fielding if we look at resumes what's the difference between Fielding and Charlo, or Andrade, or Saunders, or the majority of these fighters dont NONE of them have any wins to separate the all are Titlist or Champs to say he's ducking anybody is ludicrous... everytime they have said Canelo won't fight a fighter he fights them and beats them.. its 4 Champs in every division and more Titlist at that... how is it Canelo can fight a current Champ or Titlist in his last 4 or 5 straight fights but no fighter from 160-168 can say the same... name me 1 fighter between 160-175 that has beaten more chanps in their career than Canelo has in just the last 2 years then get back to me


    Also you realize Canelo has 2 fights above 160... the fight vs Fielding a top 10 SMW Titlist and Kovalev at top 3 LHW Champ that's not a habit rumors are he could be fighting Saunders next another top 5 SMW Champ... that dont sound bad to me at all whose doing better?
     
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  9. PIPO23

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    Pacquiao got blasted for this why does Clenelo get a past. Remember those times when Packy got flack for fighting past prime. And those weren't even 36, 37 or something boxer he fought. They were legends except Mosley and Hoya all were in their early late 20's or early 30's. Be fair here Clenelo has fought shop worn out mid 35's and up boxers that have lost a step and are over the hill. Just sick of the hypocrisy! He is clenbuterolled to the gills and mofo gets a past for that as well. Everyone else is guilty except Clenelo. Just sick and tired of the hypocrisy!! I tell you.
     
  10. ElCyclon

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    Let's cut to the chase, what prime young fighter do you think Canelo is "ducking"?

    The other stuff is simply superficial whiny talking points that haters like to use.

    In case you hadn't noticed, boxing is a huge business in Vegas and most big fights will take place there.

    Rehydration clauses will always be involved when fighters from different divisions meet in order to "even things out", otherwise we will hear people complaining about weight disparities. Did someone mention Gatti/Gamache?
     
  11. acie2g

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    Oscar going into the Manny fight hadn't fought at 147 in 10 years was coming off a loss to Mayweather and a ugly showing to Steve Forbes of all people and weighed around the same as Manny fight night.
    Mosley was coming off a loss to Mayweather and a draw to Mora of all people and hadn't had a win in 3 years....

    Compare that to 2 debated fights vs a FOTD contender going 1-1 vs a another solid young fighter then koing another prime fighter being top 3 and a Champ, Mosely and Oscar weren't title holder or top in any division... only thing comparable is age..
     
  12. PIPO23

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    Close SD to Mayweather and Mosley rocked Mayweather.

    But ,yeah, both were shot. But I remember that wasn't the case when the fight took place. Before the fight.. Pac is getting sparked and after the fight. Oh, he is weight drained. etc.

    But look Pac deserved some criticism so does Clenelo. Why does he get the past?I didn't even give Kovalev a chance. Check my post he looks like he hit the over the hill mark.

    Few names I have mentioned as lookingl like they lost that magic.

    Check my post. Donaire, Kovalev and GGG.

    They just look like they can' t pull the trigger or lost a step or two.I have always said this. But I didn't expect Clenelo to just walk them down like he has been doing. Must be the fountain of meat, err youth.
     
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  13. PIPO23

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    If you look at Hoya and Mosley compare them to Kovalev looks the same to me. Looking over the hill etc..Can't pull the trigger as fast or accurate as before. They lost that magic.

    Actually Mosley landed a beauty on Mayweather and Hoya actually gave Void a good fight.

    NOW, Kovalev hasn't fought a Mayweather caliber in his career he would get schooled badly the same with GGG. It's a sad sight when fighters hit that mark usually around 35'ish they just don't look the same.

    I don't rate these old kids as Hoyas or Mosley level.
     
  14. acie2g

    acie2g Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You leave out the part of not making weight in 1p years and Mosley getting dominated from round 2 onward and the draw that happened after... both Oscar and Mosley were Champions coming off top wins vs Mayweather both had not had a win since before facing Mayweather vs Manny... Kovalev was a top 3 rated Champ coming of a stoppage win of a young prime fighter and 3 straight wins overall big big difference dude.

    Again you say GGG is past it does that mean you would pick Crawford or Spence over GGG at 160 right now? Do you think Corlla beats Manny right now?
     
  15. PIPO23

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    They look similar bro. May not agree. It is what it is. Yardley was his best win an overrated Brit. Now i will say this even with the win. He looked horrible. Tell me i'm lying.

    Like I said, at their age credit to them. Usually the slope gets very steep at this stage of their career the decline slides down fast.

    GGG, Kovalev and Donaire they all have looked slow and horrible. Sad sight! even in wins.

    Fact is Hoya gave Void a close fight and Mosley rocked him to his boots. That power is still there. Usually the last to go.Sugar has a chin. Kovalev has none at this stage of his career.

    GGG is the oldest middle weight in the top 10 rights now as we speak,
     
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