Is AJ about to price himself out of a fight vs the Wilder/Fury winner?

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  1. ArseBandit

    ArseBandit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Joshua does not have a superior resume. Especially after February.

    Lets see how well Wilder v Fury 2 sells before we right off either's pulling power eh?

    Joshua flopped hard in the states, and like it or lump it, that's where the ppv money is.
     
  2. ArseBandit

    ArseBandit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    UK ppv just doesn't generate the revenue that the $100+ US PPV's bring in. What if Tyson v Wilder sells 1m in the US?

    Do they then deserve the lions share over Joshua?
     
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    ArseBandit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This is a Floyd / Manny situation. Joshua might be able to draw big, but he doesn't draw anywhere near the draw that him vs the winner will do. The fight is the draw.

    70/30 is posturing. I think he's looking for 55/45.
     
  4. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Joshua`s fight withn Fury is set for the middle east --as they can double their money compared to a UK clash according to the sun newspaper, I don`t know what they are suggesting about Wilder though.
     
  5. ArseBandit

    ArseBandit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    None of the fighters are scared to set foot in the ring with the other. Of them, in the last few years, Wilder actually has the best resume.

    If they where scared of losing, Fury and Wilder wouldn't be fighting each other.
     
  6. Special one

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    So going by the logic of some on here quality of resume is based on having an 0 not on the opponents faced and A side is also about being undefeated rather than how much revenue you bring to the table. Laughable the lengths Wilder sympathisers will go to in order to try and justify him pricing himself out of the fight everyone has wanted to see for years!!! Sad really.
     
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    ArseBandit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'd take any hint of where it would be held at this stage with a pinch of salt. If Fury proves a draw vs Wilder in the states, it'll be in Vegas. That is where the money is, like it or lump it no one shills out like the Americans for a big fight (PPV). Pac also proved that you don't have to be an American to draw big time viewing numbers.

    I think the rematch will sell well, though I'm and Irish man living in England so I'm playing a bit of a guessing game.

    How's the hype over in the states?
     
  8. ArseBandit

    ArseBandit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Break down why Joshua's resume is superior to Fury's, please?

    I'd argue a prime Chisora who went on to give Haye and Vitali tough fights is a better win than a shot Povetkin and Parker.

    Fury outclassed and dethroned an aging Wlad, and he beat Wilder already in all but the official record. If he convincingly beats Wilder again he has the best resume by far.

    If Wilder KO's Fury, he would also have at least as good of a resume as Josh imo.

    The Sky hype machine has bolstered Joshua's resume into something it's not. It's very good, but it doesn't stand head and shoulders above Wilder (No longer has a weak resume) or Fury.

    IMO Fury already has the better resume.
     
  9. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    There is only a tiny minority of boxing fans who think AJ is number 2,given his recent ko loss.
     
  10. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    But Hearn stated about AJ v Fury:
    “Do you think I go up to the guys and say: ‘Guys, you can make $150million (£115m) each to do it in Saudi or $40m (£30m) in the UK?’
     
  11. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Povetkin and Parker are more offensively skilled than Chisora, but AJ stated in an interview that it`s really difficult to keep Chisora off you for long because he is so strong and just keeps coming, after the pair sparred recently.
     
  12. Mitch87

    Mitch87 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I would say a large portion going on the posts on this forum, social media, boxers, ex boxers and boxrec (which I admit like Ring magazine rankings is a flawed).
     
  13. Scar

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    He doesn't want to fight. Simple as that.
     
  14. Puroresu_Fan

    Puroresu_Fan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He sold out MSG. How the fcuk can you talk about flopped in the US when Tyson Fury sold about 5k tickets for two fights in Vegas.

    AJ drew more money in NYC than Wilder did.

    Wilder v Ortiz 2:

    PPV Buys 275k. Yet you want to talk about flops.

    AJ v Ruiz MSG sold out and the tickets were more expensive.

    Fury v Wallin

    I repeat 3577 tickets sold!!!!
     
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  15. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    I agree.