Better resume RJJ or Floyd? and higher ranked all time p4p?

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  1. surfinghb1

    surfinghb1 Member Full Member

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    resume?
    rank?

    OK …. and Benitez ?
     
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  2. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Floyd. Floyd.

    By some distance too.
     
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  3. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Floyd and not particularly close as mentioned above
     
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  4. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Floyd was a better boxer than Roy and beat far better opposition.
     
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  5. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    Mayweather.

    Jones was a phenom but his resume is not deep historically in comparison to Money's.
     
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  6. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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  7. Flash24

    Flash24 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Outside of Diego Corrales who did Mayweather jr beat that didn'thave have at least 1 major question mark? Fighters not only over the hill but deep in the valley (Mosley, Deloyhoya, Judah, ) fighters forced to come up for a hugh payday, but in no way that should've been at welter ( Marquez, Hatton,Baldimir,Ortiz) fighters that were damaged goods, 1 he conveniently waited until he got knocked cold before he fought him ( Pac, Berto, ) or fighters whom were not that special to begin with( Gatti, Guerrero, Coley, Chavez,Hernandez,Augustus, all no better than contenders, but greatness was as far from them as we are from Jupiter. )
    Jones Jr beat 3 fighters in Toney, Hopkins, and Maccallum that were better than ANYONE Mayweather beat at the TIME he defeated them. And if you add in Hill, that would be 4. Outside of Alvarez, which fighter he fought had a decent career after they fought Mayweather Jr. ? In comparison to Hopkins and Toney who went on too greatness after they fought Jones Jr.
    Mayweather Jr. Career is a carefully managed, carefully manipulated, carefully low risk, but high reward manipulation of today's mass media. A career of smoke and mirrors especially at welterweight.
    Jones Jr. While I don't consider him the greatest fighter in history (far from it,but he may have been its greatest athlete) but in his prime he left no doubt about who actually won the fight. Mayweatherjr had a couple in Maidana and Castillo, that could've went either way in the 1st fight he had with them. Based on his wins over fighters like McCallum, Toney,Hopkins, Hill, than going all the way up to heavyweight to win the championship (Regardless of how bad a fighter Ruiz was, he still was a professional heavyweight fighter that managed to be somewhat successful) I'll go with Jones Jr. And it's not close especially when considering how many very capable fighters he embarrassed over his long career.
     
  8. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    I'll say this - with both at their very best in their preferred division Jones is the better fighter. That's not a knock on Mayweather, Jones was out of this world for a time.
     
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  9. surfinghb1

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    I would have to say Jones too in a close one … But it would have been nice to see him fight some better guys too , especially at 168 after Toney .. Both carefully managed their careers imo .. Both equal in skill in their own way … Roy was just a freak of nature athletically as previously mentioned
     
  10. KuRuPT

    KuRuPT Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Resume - close, but maybe a hair towards May today.
    P4P or h2h - Jones by a decent margin. He was that unreal in his prime across multiple divisions
     
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  11. The Morlocks

    The Morlocks Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No Benitez? We all have learned this is not fair to not even mention him.
     
  12. surfinghb1

    surfinghb1 Member Full Member

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    Ok … I just included him
     
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  13. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Mayweather would nevder have struggled with a fighter the level of Griffin the way Jones did in his first bout v Montell despite KOing Griffin in the rematch.
     
  14. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    McCallum was 39 and way out of shape, look at his soft body at that weight, his prime was at 154 and Jones didn`t look good in the early rounds v McCallum, Cotto was better than Mike at the stage of his career when he met Floyd.
     
  15. steve1990

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