Ranking Pacquiao among the greats

I think Arum is closer to the situation than anyone on this board, he hated Mayweather and Pac was his golden goose. The fact that he never uttered a peep makes me suspect that there is nothing there.

 

And I'm saying beating somebody H2H doesn't make you greater p4p. The two concepts are mutually exclusive.

 

That's not true. It's been documented that Mayweather used a masking agent which is designed to flush out drugs and beat a drug test.

"nothing was there" actually the masking agent was physically present inside Floyd's body. So something was in fact, there.

 

Stop! they dont like it when you say stuff like this. Neither pac nor arum complained because a ped taken a night before the fight has no benefit not only that pbf didnt throw 100 punches a round nor did he display new punching power. The haters complain because they want any excuse to justify pac getting a boxing lesson.

 

Except he was cleared there's nothing to it case closed result stand he passed all tests.

 

"Truth finally came out and I was vindicated," Pacquiao texted to PhilStar's Abac Cordero. ... "Mayweather camp used to accuse me of using PED. Now, look at what happened. I hope Floyd Mayweather would learn a good lesson out of it," Pacquiao continues.

Pacquiao's promoter, Bob Arum, is a bit more upset about the situation, even if he doesn't see anything changing:

"It is very disturbing," Arum told USA TODAY Sports in a telephone interview. "Yeah, I am outraged. But I don't know what we can do about it. I can't change the result."

Arum also said he's often wondered why Mayweather waits until so close to a fight date to announce his upcoming bouts, in reference to Victor Conte saying that the closer one gets to fight dates to begin testing, the more time a fighter would have for anything illegal to leave their system, while still reaping the benefits.

 

H2h factors in it but not the sole reason i agree but when you combine accomplishments and one has more loses and bad loses and pbf has none then pbf comes out on top.

 

Surely you guys are kidding, right? The DA literally just dropped the charges against Jussie Smollett and the entire PD was insanely pissed off. So the charges were dropped — you turds still think Smollett was innocent? Or OJ for that matter?

 

So H2H win, no losses and accomplishments Floyd comes out as a greater fighter to you. Well at least I understand what you're saying. Don't agree because Pacquiao has the better resume, and moved up more weights. Which I've recalled you admitting the past that Pac does have the better resume.

 

What is true is that the authorities in charge found nothing wrong and Arum, a Harvard-trained attorney who hated Mayweather, never said a peep. The lamentations of Pac fans on this board doesn’t change these facts.

 

What were these so called ped results. Did he look 10 years younger did his workrate improve did his power? Hell no he fought the same way and looked worse than he did against maidana. He wasnt on **** stop reaching if he was he would have looked alot better physically and fought differently but he didnt.

 

lol You always bring up Smollett. Does Pac know about your infatuation with Smollett?

 

They didn't find anything wrong. Agreed. I said he never failed a test. You are right about that.

They found a masking agent. You said they found "nothing". Well that isn't true, something was in fact, there.

 

Irrelevant that has nothing to do with boxing. Btw stop with the subtle racism i see it. You're not fooling anyone here.

 

Even if he didn't start throwing a lot of punches or start punching hard he still had something in his body. They didn't find drugs, he never failed a test. They found a masking agent which is designed to flush out drugs and beat a test.