Ranking Pacquiao among the greats

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  1. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Yes but you have to count loses when accessing overall greatness. If pac had just lost to pbf and that's it I'd say he was greater but he didnt he has several loses and some of which are bad.
     
  2. Pimp C

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    I disagree nothing but speculation and if he was on peds they were **** because they did nothing for him.
     
  3. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    It's not speculation that he used a masking agent. It was literally inside his body.
     
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  4. cslb

    cslb Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What was the masking agent?
     
  5. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    He took an IV of saline and vitamins that is often used to "dilute or mask the presence of another substance".
     
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  6. cslb

    cslb Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Is there a legitimate use for a saline solution?
     
  7. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Like i said before what benefit did this so called ped give him? He looked like **** lmfao!
     
  8. Pimp C

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    Dehydration
     
  9. Pakkuman

    Pakkuman I'm not hot. I'm just BIG. banned Full Member

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    Floyd was 150 pounds at the thirty day mark. Floyd has bragged on many occasions how he walks around close to his weigh in weight. At the weigh in, Floyd looked in phenomenal shape and exhibited zero signs of being drained/dehydrated. His eye sockets and cheeks were full and not sunken in. Guy has a personal chef and a huge entourage of people. There is no acceptable reason to believe that between the weigh in and that evening, Floyd would have become severely dehydrated. He could have had any one of his roided bodyguards walk around w/ a cooler full of water if Floyd had crazily decided to spar/run after the weigh in under the hot sun. In fact, he was in a FightHype video with Ben Thompson laughing and drinking water.

    Oh, and Floyd can be seen on video drinking from a big ass water bottle right after the weigh in.

    :deal:
     
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  10. tinman

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    Up for interpretation. If you are athlete trying to mask PED's you damn sure think your saline IV is legitimate. And if you have hundreds of millions riding on it, some corrupt organizations might think it to be legitimate as well.
     
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  11. cslb

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    lol if there is a legitimate use for the saline drip and the authorities found nothing improper then you Pac fans need to find something else to complain about. Pac’s loss to Mayweather must have really hurt. You guys can’t move on.
     
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  12. tinman

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    Except it wasn't legitimate it was banned under the world anti doping agency guidelines. Mayweather was said to have received an exemption, but the Nevada State Athletic Commission Director Bob Bennett said it was unauthorized to grant an exemption because the IV can be used to mask or dilute the presence of another substance.
     
  13. Pimp C

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    He stated the was dehydrated he didnt feel right and couldn't produce a urine sample nsac and usada found no wrong doing and cleared him. It's over continue to speculate to make yourself feel better but pac lost.
     
  14. Pakkuman

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    And Floyd just happened to have all of the supplies needed to administer IV fluids laying around the house?

    :zpong:
     
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  15. cslb

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    You say it was illegitimate, the NSAC said everything was kosher. I think the NSAC is closer to the situation than you.