Phoenices: Greatest stretches between defeats.

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  1. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    A less discussed metric, but one that is worth celebrating in a sport that places such a high premium on both consistently producing over lengthy periods, as well as overcoming adversity.

    This is pointedly excluding fighters that retire undefeated, so don't bother mentioning JCC Sr.'s initial run of 89-0-1, nor the blemish-free records of PBF, Marciano, Wanheng Menayothin (still active but 34 and likely to hang them up soon without many stark risks on the straw landscape), or Joe Calzaghe. We're looking for streaks with losses as bookends, during which a fighter staked their claim on greatness. Prioritizing not just longevity but activity; not just quantity but quality.

    1. Joseph Louis Barrow, 6/19/36 (
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      14 years, 3 months. 34-0 (29). Won the NBA, NYSAC, The Ring, and lineal heavyweight titles and made 25 defenses. Avenged the loss to Schmeling via KO.

    2. Bernard Humphrey Hopkins Jr., 5/22/93 (
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      12 years, 2 months. 24-0-1-1 (14). Won the IBF middleweight title and made 20 defenses (later adding the WBC title with 7 defenses and the WBA, RIng, and lineal championships with 6). Avenged the loss to Jones, albeit not within this unbeaten streak.

    3. Wladimir Wladimirovitsch Klitschko, 4/10/2004 (
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      11 years, 7 months. Won the IBF heavyweight title and made 18 defenses (later adding the WBO with 14 defenses, the Ring and lineal HW titles with 11 defenses, and WBA title with eight defenses). Avenged the loss to Brewster via KO.

    4. Marvin Nathaniel Hagler, 3/9/76 (
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      11 years, 1 month. 36-0-1 (32). Won the WBA, WBC, The Ring, and lineal middleweight titles and made 12 defenses (later adding the IBF title as the organization's inaugural middleweight champ, with 5 defenses). Avenged the loss to Monroe twice over.

    5. Pongsaklek Wonjongkam, 7/11/96 (
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      11 years, 1 week. Won the Lineal & WBC Flyweight titles and made 17 defenses. Avenged the loss(es) to Pahayahay once, by UD on the road to becoming champion.
     
  2. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Donaire 12 years.
     
  3. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Ah! Thank you, knew there was another recent one. :thumbsup:
     
  4. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    ^ and the last five years of that (Darchinyan through Arce) was shit-hot, just chock-a-block with excellent wins.
     
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  5. Boon

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    The only competitive stat that Floyd Mayweather is ineligible to compete in.

    PBF forever!
     
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  6. Eye of Timaeus

    Eye of Timaeus Well-Known Member Full Member

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  7. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    I dont know how many years it was but didn't robinson win like 70 straight after losing to lamotta
     
  8. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    Had to boxrec it

    Robinson 1943 35-0 lost to jake

    1951 129-1-5 lost to turpin

    7 or 8 years and about 100 bouts
     
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  9. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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    Haye
    Thompson through to Klitschko
    Took out McCormack and enzo on route
     
  10. George Crowcroft

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    What's the criteria? Do they have to lose? Or can it be from their debut until they lose for the first time, coz Chavez and Holmes come to mind.
     
  11. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    That was 8 years, 5 months. But yeah, whole chronologically a bit short of the rest of these guys there is a hell of a lot accomplished in that span (including vengeance over LaMotta 4x over..)
     
  12. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Bookends, mate. :thumbsup: As in they lost at least twice in their career. Examining the space between losses here.
     
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  13. George Crowcroft

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    Oh bollocks. Leave it with me then!
     
  14. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    The idea being "you not only came back from defeat, but you came back and dominated at the highest level of competition available for quite a while".
     
  15. tinman

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    Sor Rungvisai between losses flattened the #1 p4p fighter in the world. Actually that word doesn't even do it justice, Gonzalez was nailed to the canvas foaming at the mouth like a baby. Then he beat Estrada.

    Marco Antonio Barrera went on one of the more dominant lower weight class stretches we've seen between the Jones and Pac losses. Well, actually this one might not be appropriate for this thread, because he did officially lose the first Morales fight.

    Marvin Hagler lost in 1976 and then went unbeaten until 1987 and basically wrecked everybody for the entirety between those losses.