Prime Golovkin Prime Canelo..(Not In Las Vegas) Poll edition

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  1. GGG in points

  2. GGG decapitation

  3. Canelo on points

  4. Canelo By KO

  5. Draw

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  1. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    Herein lies the issue. Canelo is good enough to rarely be completely dominated in a round but that shouldn't be the only way you win a round against him. Simply being the better fighter over that 3 minutes should be enough regardless of the margin and against him that's demonstrably not the case. No opponent, no matter how illustrious gets to edge a round against him.

    We then have to hear nonsensical claims that rounds 'could go either way' when we all know full well that they couldn't. If he's competitive in a round, he gets it on the card. It's a simple as that.
     
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  2. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    "being the better fighter"? How about landing the better punches? Who you are perceived as "being" should matter nothing to how a round is scored.

    You're totally delusional when you say that no opoonent gets to edge a round against him. That's just total nonsense. The judges credited GGG with plenty of rounds "edged". For example, the 4th round in the first match. All 3 judges gave GGG that round, a round that Canelo was in total control of and landed the better shots. They probably gave that round to GGG because Canelo went back to the ropes. But he fought well off the ropes and didn't get hit while he was there. The judges in my estimation were looking for a round to give to GGG after Canelo swept the first 3 rounds and saw that GGG did marginally better that round so they gave him that round. But it was the wrong decision : Canelo landed the better shots and deserved to win that round.

    Another round is the 11th round of the rematch. This was a round that GGG started good but then Canelo landed a ton of clean punches down the stretch. All 3 judges gave GGG that round, a round that could have gone either way and a round that Canelo outworked GGG and landed the better shots. Even the compubox numbers favored Canelo in the round : total punches were even at 18 a piece, Canelo though was credited with landing 2 more power punches than GGG. GGG was credited with edging that round by all 3 judges. So there I've just disproved what you said that opponents can't edge rounds on him. GGG demonstrably did vs him.
     
  3. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    You're incapable of getting it.
     
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  4. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What's to get about you making false statements? I just disproved what you said. You claimed that fighters can't edge rounds vs Canelo. I pointed out that GGG edged round 4 of the first match and also edged round 11 of the rematch on all 3 judges cards. Now you have no counter to that point because I've just made you look silly and now you're mad about it. No need to be mad, just admit that what you said was incorrect, and we can happily move on. But now you're going to continue to engage in faulty rhetoric that has no factual basis. You're living in certified la la land when it comes to Canelo.

    By the way in the first match, GGG also edged round 5 vs Canelo on 2 out of the 3 judges cards, a round that Canelo had a significant lead in early on and according to HBO live stats had a punches landed advantage. Round 6 is another example of GGG edging a round on 2 of the 3 judges cards, a round that some GGG fans on here gave to Canelo.
     
  5. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    You're the king of that. It's why half of the forum has you on ignore.

    Put simply you're an awful poster who cannot see the wood for the trees.

    Anyway we're never going to get anywhere close to an agreement here so have a nice life.
     
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  6. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It's immature to resort to throw away insults like "you're an awful poster" or flat out lies like "half the forum has you on ignore" then try to tie it up into a bow by saying "have a nice life".

    You've been served, schooled and handed over on a silver platter. By muah, and you aren't used to being called out like that and exposed as someone not being honest.

    If you had any integrity you'd address my examples of the countless rounds that GGG edged on Canelo by admitting that you hugely exaggerated when you said opponents can't edge rounds vs Canelo. You've shown yourself to be a GGG fanboy cry baby who can't accept the fact that Canelo whopped his ass twice, and you proceed to make cry baby excuses every day about what happened. It's pathetic, you're a sore loser who lies about stuff so you don't have the face the cold hard truth that your hero lost to Canelo fair and square. Your dishonesty towards me and other Canelo fans is really problematic. Hopefully Pattt will be allowed to return and continue discussing this matter.
     
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  7. iii

    iii Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm not sure if you're misunderstanding or deliberately looking for an argument...
     
  8. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    Canelo is the more complete fighter, he’s shown he can outbox GGG and/or stand his ground and come out better. I’m not sure how anybody could watch those two fights and genuinely believe GGG is the better fighter. Canelo wins 6.5 out of 10 times, IMHO.
     
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  9. iii

    iii Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You sound so resolute for someone not actually saying anything..
     
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  10. Serge

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  11. fistsof steel

    fistsof steel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Polls generally tell the Truth...and this is no exception....For god sake dont have a poll on was the Golovkin V Canelo first fight a Corrupt decision or a Good decision...the Tin foil Hat mob will be triggered again Big time.!!!!! Still would not be a bad Poll though.!!!
     
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  12. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    :lol: Yes the people have spoken, fans far and wide from all across the globe had GGG the rightful winner in both the first fight and the rematch even though he was way past prime and not on PEDs.
     
  13. fistsof steel

    fistsof steel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I am not sure if this is True Serge but didn't Canelo hand over His Middleweight belt rather than fight a near prime Golovkin...then down the Track the fight was Made when the Canelo Camp recruited Adelaide Byrd to throw a spanner in the works and give Canelo a suspect Draw in the first fight in one of the most Corrupt Score Cards we have ever seen......And another question has Byrd Judged a Fight since that disgrace or is she living the High life in Monaco.!!!!
     
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  14. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    That is indeed true comrade. Clenelo ducked into the darkest corner of the chicken coop when a prime or closer to prime version of GGG was on the prowl and he wouldn't dare pop his head out until he'd seen the signs of decline he'd been patiently biding his time waiting for. Even being subjected to mass ridicule by his own people couldn't prise him out of the coop back then and that's just one of the reasons why the good people of Mexico despise him with a vengeance.

    In fact, legendary boxing trainer Joe Gallagher, who travelled over to Mexico last year with some of his fighters, said that he couldn't believe how many of Clenelo's countrymen dislike him (Clenelo not him).

    Sadly I think she has.
     
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  15. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    Yep. A Canelo superfan is able to call someone out on their integrity? OK.

    You've built your house on sandy land and then if someone bothers to 'debate' with you, you simply bury their points in an endless stream of pro-Canelo propaganda before claiming some sort of weird victory when the person you're engaging with finally stops bothering interacting with you. I'd have the same problem if I were talking to a Jehovah's Witness 'bringing me the good news'. Some men you just can't reach.

    I know for a fact that a lot of people have you on ignore. You'd prob be surprised at how many people before coming to some absurd rational of why that is. As I've already said mental gymnastics are a specialty of yours.
     
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