The Very Underrated Sub 200lbs Super-Mutants. Educate Yourself.

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  1. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Cruiserweight is a division that gets shat on a lot, being a called a stepping stone division, weak, irrelevant ect. For me, it's an awesome division, and a very underrated one. Even now with Lebedev, Hunter, Huck, Gassiev & Usyk gone, there's still a massive depth of talent and entertainment in the division: Dorticos, Briedis, Mchunu, Glowacki, Okolie, Lerena, Makabu, Wlodarczyk, Fayfer, Gevor, Kudryashov, Goulamirian, Tabiti, Papin & Masternak.

    Look at that top 15! That right there, is depth. Briedis and Dorticos are clearly the two best, and are fighting in just over a month to prove who's actually the king. My favourite thing about the division is its massive diversity, loads of guys with different styles, attributes, characters ect from all over the world. I can guarantee that if you get watching them you'll find yourself routing for one in particular.

    My personal top 5 favourites, run down:

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    Former champ Glowacki is tough as nails and a short-ass little southpaw. He's not the most skilled but he is a hard hitting unit and one who I've found is pretty underrated. Glowacki ended Huck's long ass title reign by KO in an awesome fight. He's 33 so still got time left and after the Briedis fight I'd love to see a rematch. My plan for Glowacki of what I'd want to see is Glowacki vs Makabu, then the loser of Dorticos-Briedis, then the winner. I wouldn't mind seeing him fight Diablo back in Poland as a comeback/fair well for Wlodclarczyk.

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    Ah, the Russian Hammer. This guy is a complete bad ass. Who doesn't love a glass-packing, gunslinging, majestically bearded Russian? Dmitry went to war with everyman and his dog, but his crushing power came out on top most of the time. The Dorticos, Durodola and Makabu fights are awesome. Wanna see power? Watch his 30 second 1 punch KO of Juan Carlos Gomez. At 34, and 1 fight removed from a KO loss, I don't think he has too big a future, but he could probably get one more big fight.
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    This Nigerian Duro is on a lower level than the other 4, but he did stop Kudryashov in 2 before losing the rematch. His style is really fun with a good chin and a huge punch. Earning him the alias "God's Power". At 39 he should really retire but he's been in some barn burners.

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    Big ol' Dorticos has you covered. Big frame, lovely set of Cuban skills, iron chin, and a ****ing monstrous punch. Absolutely cleaned Tabiti out in what should've been KO-OTY imo. His fights with Kudryashov, Tabiti, Masternak & Kalenga are all really fun. At 33 and going into the final of the WBSS against Breidis, should he win, the world's his oyster.

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    The Congan warmonger is a must watch type fighter. Unbelievable punch on him and a shaley set of whiskers, and he keeps winning! There was a bit of shafting last week with Cieslak but he is going for it big right now. Hopefully he gets a fight with one of the elites and wins it(unless it's Glowacki;)). His fights with Bellew, Papin, Cieslak, Kudryashov Mchunu and Kucher are awesome entertainment.

    Truth be told, aside from the ridiculous depth of the top 15, and obviously how good it is still, after 5 highly skilled operators have moved on, the reasons why this division is so good aren't that. Rather: #1, have HW-esc power but have different styles, higher workrate and exhibit higher skill levels. And #2, the big fights get made constantly; it's almost like there's always a good fight scheduled soon for the CWs. As I say, a lot of people overlook this division, and if I was to hazard a guess why, it's that there are no big names there, they get overshadowed by the HWs or a distinctive lack of UK or US fighters at the top.

    But alas, there's loads of brilliant fights (thanks to @CST80 for the majority of this list).
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    Usyk-Briedis
    Briedis-Durodola
    Makabu-Mchunu
    Dorticos-Kalenga
    Vlasov-Chakhkiev
    Afolabi-Chakhkiev
    Goulamirian-Merhy
    Makabu-Papin
    Makabu-Cieslak
    Kudryashov-Durodola 1&2
    Kudryashov-Dorticos
    Dorticos-Tabiti
    Glowacki-Huck
    Dorticos-Masternak
    Huck-Afolabi 1,2,3&4
    Lebedev-Gassiev
    Goulamirian-Bejenaru
    Glowacki-Vlasov
    Usyk-Bellew
     
  2. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    CW Level>>HW Level

    Jumah vs Hyde was another recent cracking CW Level affair

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    The absence of commentary on this one makes you really appreciate the awesomeness of CW Level

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    Alexi Egorov is another CW Level one to keep an eye on and with his aggressive fan friendly style is sure to be involved in some quality CW Level scraps

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    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Listen to what Kevin ''Kingpin'' Johnson has to say here about the difference between fighting up at CW Level compared to doing so down at HW Level.

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    Best division in Boxing before Gassiev and Usyk moved up by a country mile, easily, even now without them two it pisses over any other division imo
     
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    Somali Sanil Wild Buffalo Man banned Full Member

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    Its made up of 90% EE fighters too. They breed them tough over that way :deal:
     
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  6. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    The ''I don't like watching CW Level'' crowd are a strange bunch. Apparently they don't enjoy watching exciting fights. In fact, I'm struggling to think of a division where I've seen more exciting fights in the last decade or so than CW Level and HW Level doesn't even come close in that regard.
     
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    Somali Sanil Wild Buffalo Man banned Full Member

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    Easy bloke to listen to, very clear, wouldn't think he'd boxed a round tbf
     
  8. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I've said it already but I think it's an underlying hate for either Usyk or even just Eastern Europeans as a whole, or simply just blissful ignorance.

    CW constantly have loads of good fights and a large range of consistently entertaining fighters.

    I'd salivate over a Glowacki vs Makabu fight.
     
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    George Crowcroft Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Let alone going the distance with every hard puncher he fought(bar 2).
     
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    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Definitely partly that but anti-CW Level bias has been a thing for a long time now.

    Yes that would be another cracker for sure. But Glowacki's got to get past Octopus Okolie first and if the ref ain't going to do his job he might come unstuck (pun intended).

    Actually I suspect Octopus Okolie is an undercover HW Level operative who has been sent to tarnish the good name of CW Level by sucking the life force and excitement out of CW Level fights with his hideous octopus style.
     
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    Kingpin's mandible section is CW Level :deal:
     
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    There's a good few CW which have awful mandibles.
     
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  13. Somali Sanil

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    lol its the Americans, not all of them, but some are territorial, I mean tbf, they've easily had the best amount of talent in years gone by, throughout the weights they've had the best talent, but the balance has changed, tougher more hungry fighters are showing up, harder mentally, the British and the Americans are pampered in comparison..It also has F all to do with Basketball ;)
     
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    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    True but they're mostly boiled down HWs and blown up LHWs not genuine CW Level
     
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    These puny cruiserweight 's are no match for these gargantuan sized behemoths. These overweight slobs are just too much for them. Looking forward to seeing that scrawny Usyk thrown in the wheelie bin like Haye and Adamek. The moral of the story is stay where you are. I don't want to see thousand of pitty pat punches thrown in vain, before their cornered at beaten down by a slow sluggish walrus! lol