Peak Golovkin vs Peak Canelo

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  1. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Canelo was not on record challenging Golovkin to a non-title fight at 155 following the Khan fight, that you pulled out of your ass. Here is what Canelo was on record following the Khan fight: https://www.badlefthook.com/2016/5/...res-no-weight-issue-ill-fight-golovkin-at-160

    No mention of 155, he specifically says that there's no weight issue. The only reason that the fight didn't happen at the time because Oscar did not want to put his guy in with Golovkin at the time.
     
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  2. IsaL

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    No, did not pull it out of my ass. I pay attention to boxing so I know what the buzz was in that time. Even your GGGoon pals know and always talk about how Canelo wanted the fight for no titles at 155.

    The translations are off, so if you're not fluent in spanish then you're going to misunderstand what he said.

    On 6:12 of your video he again for the second time that night, the first being in the ring post fight interview mentions that for a fight like that belts do not matter and to put them aside as he challenges Golovkin.

    In other words, he's challenging Golovkin to a Non-title fight, why because he had previously stated that if GGG wanted the fight it would be at 155.

    What you're referring too is when they asked if there would be an issue fighting Golovkin at the full MW limit. Again, the translation is not exact. Canelo answered by saying that he has a team, but as far as HIM he has no issue with it, and then he reiterated and said "I said I have an entire team".

    In other words, Canelo alone doesn't make ALL the decisions. He's obviously referring to his advisor and trainer Chepo and Edy who he consults with and help guide his career.

    Fact of the matter is Canelo and his team challenged GGG to a Non-title fight. 155 was the weight (no-titles) as he said immediately after KO Khan and in the video you linked up at the 6:12 mark.

    Despite GGG stating several times he would fight anyone between 154-168, GGG DECLINED the challenge (he's known to decline challenges).

    So if he had to wait until Canelo felt good and ready and acclimated to 160, then that was GGGs choice, because he could have been a man of his word and fought Canelo at 155, since its between 154-168.

    GGG has no one but himself to blame for missing out on the fight in 2016 and instead got it in 2017. And GGG is also to blame for his less than stellar resume for passing up opportunities constantly.

    Here is the 155 cw discussed..

    Canelo challenging GGG to a fight at 155
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    Robert Garcia spitting Truth about 155
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    It's all there, what else do you want?
     
  3. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You most definetly did pull it out of your ass.

    First, the videos you posted were from 2015. You claimed Canelo made an offer for a fight at 155 AFTER he beat Khan, which would be 2016. You did all the digging, all the articles and could not come up with anything about an offer at 155 after the Khan fight so you posted videos from 2015.

    Because, let me repeat, the offer for a fight at 155 after the Khan fight DOES NOT exist. He does say I have a team, but he never mentiones 155, just He doesn't even mention any "offer". Yes, he does say that they can fight for no titles, that's not challenging, that's just confirming that he wants the fight, saying that there's no weight issue without mentioning 155. Because he didn't. Canelo NEVER mentioned a catchweight offer after the Khan fight.

    People ended up believeing the BS that you spewed, that's not my concern. The only goon here is you, making **** up out of thin air to defend your hero. You're even willing to contradict with Canelo himself to defend him.

    And no, you don't know the buzz at the time. You were probalby telling everyone how smart Oscar was for delaying the fight.
     
  4. IsaL

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    Seriously man, do you have bad memory or were you not following boxing back then.. everyone knew the challenge was for 155. What's your obsession with arguing that it wasn't? Lol

    Dude, the 155 challenge was one of the main reasons why the fight wasn't being made. You can't be this stupid bro??

    Here's Sanchez talking about Canelo's 155 challenge following the Khan fight.
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  5. theanatolian

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    I'm arguing against it because the challenge for a fight at 155 after the Khan fight doesn't exist. There was no mention about it from anyone from the GBP camp. I'll take Canelo's word for it that weight wasn't the issue. What kind of a stupid nuthugger are you, arguing against the man himself to defend him?

    Everyone knew the fight didn't happen in 2016 because Oscar didn't want to see Canelo anywhere near Golovkin at the time. You can't be tihs moronic bro?
     
  6. IsaL

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    Key points:

    • Golovkin states he'll fight anyone between 154-168
    • Canelo states the fight will have to be at 155
    • Golovkin backtracked and said 160 only
    • Canelo fights Khan
    • Abel Sanchez again states 160 or nothing
    • Canelo says 160 is not an issue with him personally but makes it clear by stating twice he has a team.
    If GGG would have accepted 155 in 2016, he would have had the fight in 2016 not 2017.
     
  7. theanatolian

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    If there was an offer at 155 or at any weight in 2016, we would have would have found out. But there wasn't, because GBP did not want it at the time. No offer, not a single offer was made between the time Canelo fought Khan and Smith.

    Unfortunately, fights can't get made based on offers that don't exist, that some nuthugger pulled out of his ass.
     
  8. IsaL

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    You're useless bro LOL...

    Very odd of you to argue against something that was common knowledge at the time. The main reason why they couldn't agree to make the fight was because Canelo's team wanted 155... Did you forget how you GGGirls were trying to say that the 155 reason was invalid since he fought JCCjr at 164??

    My goodness you just argue for the sake of arguing.

    I posted a VIDEO of Abel Sanchez rejecting 155 right after the Khan fight...

    Tell me this, since you seem to be a boxing insider... WHY would Abel Sanchez tell the media IMMEDIATELY after the Khan fight that Canelo was full of **** and was behaving like a diva for wanting the fight at 155?????

    Do you have more inside information than Abel Sanchez? Are you connected with Loeffler or GBP promotions somehow?? NO!! You're just a internet Goon obsessed with making a point that Abel Sanchez contradicts when he said that the fight will not be at 155, but at 160, and that Canelo is acting like a Diva for wanting the fight at 155. Its on video bro... Here is the video. Watch it from the 0:35 mark

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    But if it fits your weird narrative, you go on and pretend that Canelo wasn't challenging GGG to a Non-title fight at 155... whatever helps you sleep better at night.
     
  9. theanatolian

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    Canelo wasn't challenging GGG to a non-title fight at 155, BECAUSE HE HIMSELF SAID THAT WEIGHT WASN'T THE ISSUE, THAT HE'D FIGHT AT 160. Do you have more inside information than Canelo? Are you connected with Oscar or anyone from GBP, talking about an offer when there's no word from them? No, you're just some mentally ill nuthugger who dick rides them online.

    Abel says fight should happen at 160, Canelo himself says he'll fight at 160, noone from the GBP camp say otherwise. These are the only quotes from either camp. Noone mentiones 155, either side say that fight can happen at 160. Yet you, some nameless nuthugger online claim that there was an offer at 155 without any source from the side that allegedly made the offer. Are you claiming that you know better than Canelo himself, goon?

    But by all means, if contradicting with Canelo himself to defend him, believeing in the bull**** that you pulled out of your ass will help you feel better, than keep being a mentally il nuthugger.
     
  10. IsaL

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    Canelo said "I personally do not have any issues with weight, but I have a team".... Keyword: I HAVE A TEAM.

    Golovkin in April said that he was not fighting Canelo at 155.

    Abel Sanchez in May following the Khan fight said that Canelo was behaving like a Diva for demanding 155.

    MAY 11 2016... GGG stating that Canelo's 155 demand is ridiculous.
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    What else do you need?
     
  11. theanatolian

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    Sanchez said fight should happen at 160, Golovkin said It should happen at 160, Canelo said he’ll fight at 160. That’s all I need to know that weight was not the issue. He did say he’ll gather with his team, and unless he or anyone from his team said anything about wanting to fight at a catchweight after that, Canelo being ok with fighting at 160 and being on the same page with the GGG side regarding the weight is the last quote we have regarding the situation. To suggest otherwise simply means that you’re in the Canelo team(hence you claim to know they decided to dermand 155 again without any quote from them to back it up) or you flat out made it up.
     
  12. IsaL

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    I posted videos of Abel Sanchez, and Gennady Golovkin from May 7th, and May 11th, both preceding the Khan-Canelo fight. It's important to note that both GGG and Sanchez were arguing against 155 after the Khan fight because it was immediately after the Khan fight that Canelo challenged GGG to a Non-title fight.... Using a little bit of common sense and logic, you can ask yourself why Canelo would challenge GGG to a Non-title fight and understand based on his and his teams comments leading up to the Khan fight, and Golovkin's and Sanchez' comments about rejecting 155 after the Khan fight, that the challenge for a Non-title fight meant that it was for 155.

    I can't believe how much common sense you lack.
     
  13. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Give it up IsaLoser this guy is OWNING you He really has the facts you dont LOL
     
  14. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    Of course, of course he is C.J.... I love his facts, and evidence too...LMAO!
     
  15. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Yet you still keep harping on regardless LOL:eaea: