Deontay Wilder vs Joe Frazier

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  1. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    You assume Frazier would get full leverage on left hooks against Wilder. Wilder is four inches taller than Ali. Ali was closer to Frazier’s height than Wilder’s.
     
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  2. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Fraziers going to have to endure some hard shots to get to that 11th round
     
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  3. mcvey

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    His body would still be there would it not?
     
  4. mcvey

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    You're not wrong there! I do question how many would land solidly on the much shorter guy though.
    Even Wilder ,who has "get out of jail power" has to land his shots, against a stolid, slow, upright, old Ortiz he was clearly behind before producing that right hand.
     
  5. Belfast

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    Watching Deontay chicken dancing from a left book from club fighter Molina and struggling to know what to do any time a fighter gets close (even Stiverne with his awful footwork walked Wilder into a corner and worked his body and Wilder didn't know what to do) are horrible omens, Frasier chops him the **** up and switched upstairs to decapitate him mid rounds. Name me one good pressure fighter Wilder has faced? Just one decent one
     
  6. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Areola did too, Wilder is very very overrated.
     
  7. Belfast

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    these guys just have never seen somebody get inside on Deontay before (because they matched him e friendly carefully)it's not a pretty sight, he is utterly clueless, cannot spoil counter or clinch to save his kife, Frazier would puree his ribs
     
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  8. mcvey

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    He is but his power isn't imo.
     
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  9. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    I wouldn't say he had to "systematically wear down cruiserweight sized oppeenets over many rounds. " Only 3 people under 200 pounds made it past round 5 with him. Quarry (first bout), Machen, and Jones. All very formidable fighters. I do agree with you in that he was an attrition puncher.
     
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  10. greynotsoold

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    Good point. A much shorter guy, fighting low like Frazier, would be a challenging target for a guy 6'7" tall.
     
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  11. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Not really. You have to pass the danger zone to get there and he stays out of range.
     
  12. mcvey

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    Frazier never allowed anyone to "stay out of range"once he's past Wilders pawing jab and ,hopefully slips the right hand ,the inside game is his.Wilder is crap inside.
     
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  13. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    He never fought anyone like Wilder. It wouldn’t be an inside fight.
     
  14. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He indeed fought better fighters than Wilder who lacks fundamentals
     
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  15. NoNeck

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    And he got blown away twice by a fighter with terrible fundamentals.