Ike Ibeabuchi vs Luis Ortiz.

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  1. CroBox29

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  4. NoNeck

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    Blond Ortiz would give him a boxing lesson.
     
  5. catchwtboxing

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    Ike would beat him right now. And is probably really younger, too.

    Ike was a real fighter with outstanding wins against Chris Byrd and David Tua.

    Ortiz is an old guy with heart problems who is hanging his hat on a win against post-40 Tony Thompson, which he needed steroids to get, and now forgotten Bryant Jennings. The reason that Ortiz is hyped so greatly when he simply isn't that good is that the the Wilder ladyboys try to hang their hat on the fact that their hero targeted and beat a guy with high blood pressure TWICE.

    Sick. Just sick.
     
  6. NoNeck

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    Ike is the hype job. The guy didn’t even deserve the decision against Tua.

    It’s a shame he became bat**** before Lewis could expose him.
     
  7. catchwtboxing

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    Narrowly, most thought Ike won it. But he set a record with Tua for most punches in a heavyweight fight--many viscous bombs that landed on each others chins, and no one questions that Tua was a brutal puncher with wins over four titlist. So even if you thought Ike lost it, it is still a far better accomplishment than Ortiz's entire career.

    And Ike knocked out Byrd, a fighter with wins over Tua, Holyfiled, and Vitali Klitschko.

    So no, Ike was no joke. It is not even on the table.
     
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    Ortiz would be God himself if he committed sexual assault after beating Jennings and got sent away.

    Ike was good but had limited boxing ability as evidenced by Byrd taking rounds from him, Kirk Johnson beating him up in sparring, and his inability to sit behind a jab against Tua. Don’t waste your time with an idiotic recap of Byrd’s career as if I don’t know what his level was; good not great.
     
  9. catchwtboxing

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    No one said he was. He was just better than Ortiz, who is nothing.

    Utter load of ****. Jennings is a forgotten fighter with nothing notable. Thompson was well past it, and Ortiz was caught using against him. Byrd is a champ with wins over holy, vitklit and Tua, and Tua has wins over four titlists.

    Didn't matter in the end.

    If this even happened, it does not matter. Sparring is sparring.

    He still won one of the greatest fights ever.

    Wow, you cite sparring, and I cite fighter's records, but my analysis is idiotic? Sir, you are a ****ing moron. Get out of your parent's basement and get a date. It will do you good.
     
  10. NoNeck

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    Juan Carlos Gomez against Ike would probably be fairer.
     
  11. George Crowcroft

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    Ortiz is the literal definition of a hype job. Padded record and all, at least Ike beat high ranking fighters, both of whom would beat Ortiz badly.
     
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    Ike beat 8th ranked Tua and 6th ranked Byrd. He deserved to lose to Tua and Byrd was beating him but got caught.

    Ortiz beat top 5 Jennings in dominant fashion.

    None of them would beat Blond Ortiz.
     
  13. George Crowcroft

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    >Assuming that a ranking in 2014 is as valuable as one in 97 or 99...

    The Tua fight was a close 7-5 type fight with swing rounds. It's incredibly naive to think your scoring is the be all and end all in that one. Even if you and your ego do, it doesn't matter, Ike did win and has a better win than Ortiz does.

    You say that like Byrd isn't better than anyone Ortiz has beaten... Oh and he wasn't "caught", that implies it was an accident or a one time thing. He dropped him twice in the 5th, which you well know.

    Blonde Ortiz gets KTFO'd by Tua. I wouldn't be surprised if it was as early as Moorer or Ruiz. He also gets tooled by Byrd and ironed out by Ike. Ortiz is a steroid infused hypejob made to boost Wilder's résumé. Noting more.
     
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    Your opinions are from the viewpoint of riding the jockstrap of Dillianabol and Joshua. Worthless.
     
  15. George Crowcroft

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    So no response? Ok then. Well done.

    I don't like Joshua... I'm a big fan of Dillian, yes but when do I have bias fan boy opinions about him? My opinions around Whyte are pathetically uninspiring.

    Ortiz has one pathetic win which you consistently big up and call Ike Ibeabuci, who has two wins who beat Ortiz let alone Jennings, a hypejob... You're the fanboy with worthless opinions here.
     
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