1988 Mike Tyson vs 1971 Joe Frazier

Foreman KOed Frazier very easily.
Prime Tyson would have done the same.

 

Not even close.

 

Name skills Frazier had that Mike didn`t or any heavyweight Joe fought including Ali.

 

Tyson vs Fraizer would be fun while it lasted. Prime Tyson KO's Frazier like he did his son Marvin Frazier.

 

Tyson was more skilled than Frazier but their were multiple heavys more skilled than Tyson, including Ali, Louis, And Patterson (who Ali said was the most skilled fighter he ever fought)

 

Peak Frazier takes him all the way.

 

Tyson by manslaughter. faster, twenty pounds heavier, far more powerful. Much better selection of punches.

 

Whirlwind of a fight but after taking a few shots, Tyson catches up with Frazier and stops him in 2 or 3.

Great to watch with some heavy shots form both. Mike's too fast and durable though.

 

Tyson under Rooney still used angles with his feet even if Frazier makes it past Tyson's hook and overhand right, the uppercut will wait for him, and if he survives that, Tyson will step around the slower footed frazier

 

Yeah, I'm going with this. Tyson could get him out early based on several deciding factors, namely the referee.

For the first few I like Tyson to shift and move, bobbing and weaving as he did to exploit the openings Frazier's constant left hook and erratic head-movement would provide. Whilst Joe bobs, Tyson would rip his head off with uppercuts. After 3 or 4, I think Tyson would be dominating, and have scored multiple knock-downs. Tyson would be dominant, but you can still be dominant and take damage, which I think would happen here. Joe's left hook would still land on Tyson's arms, head and body, wearing him down slowly.

The momentum would almost instantly shift after 6, Joe's conditioning and slow starting being the main factor, but Tyson's own stamina and mental fortitude coming back to bite him. Joe would start landing more and more as Tyson slowed, the body shots and pressure would start to hurt Tyson. He'd win the rounds more convincingly with each that passed, over 12, Tyson survives and wins the fight based on the scoring being (roughly) 6-6, but Tyson scoring KDs. Over 15, Joe's viciousness and sustained pressure stops Mike.

So basically with a ****(modern) ref, Mike wins in 3/4, with a good ref over 12, Mike wins on points. Over the true championship distance with a good ref Frazier wins by stoppage.

Tyson TKO3/4
Tyson UD12
Frazier TKO14

 

Joe was far harder to hit than Marvis.

 

No neither guy could take the other guys punches for 12 or 15 rounds, not while coming forwards toe to toe.

 

Patterson was a poor man`s Tyson, he didn`t do anything in the ring that Tyson didn`t, Cus taught them the same stuff, but Mike picked it up better, Cus would have agreed, he thought Tyson was awesome. Tyson was a more skilled body puncher than Floyd, his right hook to the body followed by a vicious uppercut was a thing of beauty.

 

It's becoming increasingly clear you don't know anything about Patterson and you're just a fanboy.

 

No way could Ingo have landed on Mike as much as he did on Floyd, Mike`s guard was better his glove were always near his chin and more active than Floyd`s, he outjabbed Tucker who never outboxed a 6'5 fighter.