Wilders Horrible Resumé Means He can NEVER be an ATG

If he retired right now he could not be an all time great with that resume however he hasn't retired he did say he will fight 6 more years .

If he beats fury , whyte, usyk, parker. Joshua. And remain undefeated. Until then. 6 years 2 fights a year. 12 defences plus the ten he already has. Thats 22 defences .

Not saying wilder is an all time great.


If he retired right now with that resume he would not be an atg at all . however he still has time left. So your word of " never" isnt accurate. Yet

 

I mean there's value in what you point out, his record is very thin.

But it irks me when people say things like 'Look at Wilder's opponents in his 16th to 23rd fights and compare that with Joshua’s'. Two different career paths and opportunities; and you can be certain it would have taken AJ a few more fights to get a world title without Charles Martin - one of the worst ever HW champs - picking up a strap and being prepared to cash-grab and defend it in the UK.

And if Wilder beats Fury and goes on to fight and beat AJ, the assessment of his overall record is rendered irrelevant. It's the big fights, and what happens in them, which counts more than an entire resume. Of the 'big three', two have fought each other - soon to be twice - and one has fought neither. In that respect, AJ's record is inferior...

 

That entirely depends on who he fights and beats from here on out.
His resume isn't all that now, but with the right fights and the right amount of luck, even someone like Pulev might eventually become an ATG. Not even remotely likely, but you never know 100% sure.

 

Thats the spirit !! Its all about perspective my friend!

 

He's the ATG Puncher, but he'll never be the ATG who mastered the sport of boxing.

 

It depends on what happens from here. If he beats Fury and Joshua he will go down as an ATG.

If he loses to both of them he goes down as another Ernie Shavers.

The history is still being written. Sit back and enjoy gents, there are some great, competitive fights to be made at HW.

 

If he beats fury, especially twice (with a draw already) and AJ he will certainly be an ATG

 

You aren't even a good liar about this. Whose ratings are you using? Your own? They aren't the RING ratings. And they aren't the WBC ratings.

Luis Ortiz isn't even ranked #9 NOW by the RING. He's #5. In the WBC, Ortiz is #4. Both of those ratings are CURRENT.

And Fury is #1.

Wilder is rated #2 by the Ring. He's fought the #5 guy and the #1 guy in four of his last five fights.

The days of regurgitating some fake stats are over.

Wilder is one of the top heavyweights in the world and he's fighting the top heavyweights in the world ... he very well could be the LINEAL WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION IN TWO WEEKS ... and threads like these show what a fraud you are as a poster for trying to pass them off as legit.

 

Yeah, agreed. Wilder has fought Fury; Fury has fought Wilder and AJ has fought neither. So yes, so far AJ has not shared a ring with his two most dangerous rivals.

And having already fought - with both boxers having good reasons to not want risk a rematch - they signed to fight again. These are facts; accusations of 'ducking' are merely opinions, unless privy to contract negotiations...

 

So thread is basically a whine from an Anthony Joshua fan because the top two heavyweights are fighting for the Lineal Title in a couple weeks?

Joshua was exposed by Andy Ruiz. He got dropped four times and he quit in their first meeting, and he ran like a scared child in the return, even though Ruiz was tipping 300 pounds and could barely get his trunks on.

Joshua fought two weeks after Wilder. Now Wilder's fighting the #1 rated heavyweight in a matter of days, and Joshua is going to take six months to "prepare" to face another knockover opponent in Pulev.

Joshua made his own bed. You rooted for the wrong fighter. It happens. He's a quitter. Nobody blames you. Get over it.

The top two heavyweights are fighting in two weeks. It's a great style matchup. Enjoy the fight. And stop with the fake stats.