Your Top Ten All TIme Euro Middles?

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  1. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member

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    In the original post I set out the criteria as follows.

    ".Only those born in Europe please."

    What does this indicate to you, Numb Nuts?
     
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  2. Cecil

    Cecil Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I had to get a little bit more info about the French fighters.
    Knew a bit about them but not in depth.
     
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  3. mcvey

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    My provisional ten are not in any order yet'
    Minter
    Fitzsimmons
    Turpin
    Dauthille
    Villemain
    Benvenuti
    Thil
    Benn
    Eubanks
    Antuofermo
    Might change a couple
     
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  4. mattdonnellon

    mattdonnellon Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Fitz
    Dempsey
    Turpin
    Benvenuti
    Sturm
    Graham
    Collins
    Eubank
    Benn
    Papp
    No particular order.
     
  5. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member

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    Bob Fitzsimmons came back to Europe in the spring of 1909 he gave a variety tour ,in fact he was ringside for the Iron Hague vSam Langford fight sitting next to Gypsy Jem Mace,the fight was at the National Sporting Club Covent Garden on 24th May 1909 , Fitz also gave an exhibition in Villiers Street London at a benefit for Mace, making a horseshoe in the ring which was auctioned off, the proceeds going to Mace .
    I was in both Covent Garden & Villiers street two Sundays ago the building in Villiers St is unfortunately no longer there.
     
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  6. mcvey

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    Par for the course from a ******.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/boxing/...pions---how-they-won-the-tit/bob-fitzsimmons/
    The Encyclopaedia Brittanica
    Lennox Lewis, in full Lennox Claudius Lewis, (born September 2, 1965, London, England), first British boxer to hold the undisputed heavyweight world championship since Bob Fitzsimmons held the title in 1899.
     
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  7. The Slaps

    The Slaps Win or lose, as long as you get the decision Full Member

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    He went to New Zealand as a 10 year old from England and lived in a Cornsih community in New Zealand, learned his boxing trade in New Zealand, he was a grown man before he went to Australia.
    He is considered an Englishman in winning the world championship in these so called history books, you also forgot Peter Maher and Tom Sharkey both heavyweight world champions pre-dating Max Schmeling.

    I'm not getting into any more geography lessons, I'm actually trying to make my middleweight list.
     
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  8. mcvey

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    1.Turpin
    2.Fitzsimmons
    3.Thil
    4.Benvenuti
    5.Dauthille
    6.Benn
    7.Villemain
    8.Harvey
    9.Eubanks
    10.McAvoy
    Finding it very hard to be precise about the French and Belgian guys.They have victories over each other.
    Some I haven't included such as Humez , Langlois,and Delanoitt have good names on their resumes.
    Humez 94-7-1 beat;
    Portuguez
    Scholz
    McAteer
    Mueller
    Stretz
    Langlois
    Mitri
    Panter
    Buxton
    Hairston
    janiro
    Dauthille
    Kouidri


    Langlois 67-18-5 beat;
    Giardello
    Castellani
    Green
    Dykes

    Delanoitt 61-16-4 beat;
    Van Dam
    Cerdan
    Dauthille
    Tunero

    Villemain 52-7-4 beat;
    Basora.
    DeJohn
    Nardico
    Rindone
    Kouidiri
    Stock
    Raadick
    Dauthille
    He lost 7 times but 2 were to Robinson,1 to Sands
    1Lamotta,1. Olson.
     
  9. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I wonder how many years of practice it took you to become so adept at spewing utter garbage, at will. It's as though it is your second nature - or, just... ...your nature.

    You carry a double standard. This is a proven fact. I have not taken anything out of context, as the evidence shows. It needed little consideration, because it really is not that complicated. Perhaps, it is you who should more carefully consider the matters of method that you might genuinely want to defend, before taking opposite positions on the same point, from one post to the next. As it is, you just spout aggressive trash, without much thought at all.

    I think you must just like being miserable and 'shouty' with people, who disagree with you (which I am going to take a guess at amounting to a good few posters on these boards).

    In this case, you immediately set out to claim a conspiracy; that the criteria stated by the OP, has been set "just to exclude Abraham and Gevor." :lol: Then, you claim "disciples" (what planet?) have ruined this thread, when it is you who has refused to abide by the criteria, arguing the toss over junior geography, in your typical, 'House of Pain Charm School' kind of way.

    I'm not sure there is anything to be gained in discussing your lack of comprehension, when it comes to a simple, given criterion. And, what is there to refute, when your list contains Boxers, who do not fit the criteria specified; done so willfully, as if to take a stand (against an imagined injustice - how strange)?


    And - by the way - I posted my top-10, on the first page of the thread, you cretin.
     
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  10. Cecil

    Cecil Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I notice there’s no problem with your prose in this post.
    You’ve slipped up again.
    You’re a WUM.
     
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  11. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Goodbye Troll, (aka Ra's Al-Ghul)... :wave:
     
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  12. mcvey

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    Well we tried to have a sensible thread,you can't legislate for morons ,only the Mods can do that.
     
  13. LoadedGlove

    LoadedGlove Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Thought you were going to say you were ringside for Langford v Hague for a second there Mac !!!
     
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  14. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    France is in Europe.
     
  15. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Benn and Eubank didn`t achieve much at 160, the WBO belt wasn`t as established as the major three belts back then, McCallum was the WBA champ and Eubank ducked him, Mike looked far better v Watson than Eubank and Benn did, Benn was completely outclassed v Watson, he looked better v Barkley but that was just a war and Eubank exposed Benn at 160, Nigel was far better in the rematch at 168.