In the original post I set out the criteria as follows. ".Only those born in Europe please." What does this indicate to you, Numb Nuts?
I had to get a little bit more info about the French fighters. Knew a bit about them but not in depth.
My provisional ten are not in any order yet' Minter Fitzsimmons Turpin Dauthille Villemain Benvenuti Thil Benn Eubanks Antuofermo Might change a couple
Bob Fitzsimmons came back to Europe in the spring of 1909 he gave a variety tour ,in fact he was ringside for the Iron Hague vSam Langford fight sitting next to Gypsy Jem Mace,the fight was at the National Sporting Club Covent Garden on 24th May 1909 , Fitz also gave an exhibition in Villiers Street London at a benefit for Mace, making a horseshoe in the ring which was auctioned off, the proceeds going to Mace . I was in both Covent Garden & Villiers street two Sundays ago the building in Villiers St is unfortunately no longer there.
Par for the course from a ******. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/boxing/...pions---how-they-won-the-tit/bob-fitzsimmons/ The Encyclopaedia Brittanica Lennox Lewis, in full Lennox Claudius Lewis, (born September 2, 1965, London, England), first British boxer to hold the undisputed heavyweight world championship since Bob Fitzsimmons held the title in 1899.
He went to New Zealand as a 10 year old from England and lived in a Cornsih community in New Zealand, learned his boxing trade in New Zealand, he was a grown man before he went to Australia. He is considered an Englishman in winning the world championship in these so called history books, you also forgot Peter Maher and Tom Sharkey both heavyweight world champions pre-dating Max Schmeling. I'm not getting into any more geography lessons, I'm actually trying to make my middleweight list.
1.Turpin 2.Fitzsimmons 3.Thil 4.Benvenuti 5.Dauthille 6.Benn 7.Villemain 8.Harvey 9.Eubanks 10.McAvoy Finding it very hard to be precise about the French and Belgian guys.They have victories over each other. Some I haven't included such as Humez , Langlois,and Delanoitt have good names on their resumes. Humez 94-7-1 beat; Portuguez Scholz McAteer Mueller Stretz Langlois Mitri Panter Buxton Hairston janiro Dauthille Kouidri Langlois 67-18-5 beat; Giardello Castellani Green Dykes Delanoitt 61-16-4 beat; Van Dam Cerdan Dauthille Tunero Villemain 52-7-4 beat; Basora. DeJohn Nardico Rindone Kouidiri Stock Raadick Dauthille He lost 7 times but 2 were to Robinson,1 to Sands 1Lamotta,1. Olson.
I wonder how many years of practice it took you to become so adept at spewing utter garbage, at will. It's as though it is your second nature - or, just... ...your nature. You carry a double standard. This is a proven fact. I have not taken anything out of context, as the evidence shows. It needed little consideration, because it really is not that complicated. Perhaps, it is you who should more carefully consider the matters of method that you might genuinely want to defend, before taking opposite positions on the same point, from one post to the next. As it is, you just spout aggressive trash, without much thought at all. I think you must just like being miserable and 'shouty' with people, who disagree with you (which I am going to take a guess at amounting to a good few posters on these boards). In this case, you immediately set out to claim a conspiracy; that the criteria stated by the OP, has been set "just to exclude Abraham and Gevor." Then, you claim "disciples" (what planet?) have ruined this thread, when it is you who has refused to abide by the criteria, arguing the toss over junior geography, in your typical, 'House of Pain Charm School' kind of way. I'm not sure there is anything to be gained in discussing your lack of comprehension, when it comes to a simple, given criterion. And, what is there to refute, when your list contains Boxers, who do not fit the criteria specified; done so willfully, as if to take a stand (against an imagined injustice - how strange)? And - by the way - I posted my top-10, on the first page of the thread, you cretin.
Benn and Eubank didn`t achieve much at 160, the WBO belt wasn`t as established as the major three belts back then, McCallum was the WBA champ and Eubank ducked him, Mike looked far better v Watson than Eubank and Benn did, Benn was completely outclassed v Watson, he looked better v Barkley but that was just a war and Eubank exposed Benn at 160, Nigel was far better in the rematch at 168.