Does Mike Tyson belong in the same category as Muhammad Ali, Sonny Liston, and Jack Dempsey?

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Should Tyson be rated alongside Dempsey, Ali and Liston?

  1. Tyson proved he was as great as any heavyweight ever

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  2. Tyson doesn`t deserve a place at the top

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  3. Dempsey, Liston and Ali wee all better than Tyson

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  1. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    I believe Tyson was the most skillful heavyweight of all-time due to Rooney and Cus and that he would have destroyed Dempsey, but could he have beat a proven great like Ali and could his ability to finish be compared to Liston`s?
     
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  2. GOAT Primo Carnera

    GOAT Primo Carnera Member of the PC Fan Club Full Member

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    Why putting Dempsey along with Liston into same category as Ali :confundio1:

    What brings "1 fight title defense Sonny Liston", who was 10-15lb heavier than the guys he fought, into same boat as Tyson?
     
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  3. Dance84

    Dance84 Unicorn and seastar land Full Member

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    agreed
     
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  4. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    He just makes my top ten.
     
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  5. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    He’s not in Muhammad Ali’s league. Dempsey and Liston ? Yes
     
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  6. GOAT Primo Carnera

    GOAT Primo Carnera Member of the PC Fan Club Full Member

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    Dempsey+Liston are Ali's league, but Tyson isn't?
    Or sayin all three of them are not Ali's league?
     
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  7. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    I took it to mean neither 3 of them are in Ali's league. And I agree.
     
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  8. KasimirKid

    KasimirKid Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think Tyson is in Ali's league, but not a pennant winner. Dempsey and Liston, IMO, would have no chance.
     
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  9. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Dempsey doesn't belong in that league. And Ali is in his own league.... maybe only occupied by one other, Joe Louis.
     
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  10. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    Tyson is nowhere near Ali's league. Neither are Dempsey or Liston. What a silly comment.
     
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  11. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Tyson said Liston was the only fighter he saw that could have intimidated him if they had been in the same era and Liston was as good at finishing opponents as Tyson and Dempsey were.
     
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  12. Rope-a-Dope

    Rope-a-Dope Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ali > Tyson > Liston > Dempsey
     
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  13. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Tyson was taught more offensive tools than Ali was.
     
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  14. The Morlocks

    The Morlocks Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No. He belongs right where he is with Tubbs. Biggs. Page. Witherspoon. Thomas. Tucker. Williams. Seldon.. Mathis jr. All the mid-late 80s greats and early 90s fighters not named Holyfield. Bowe. Louis. M[rer.
     
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  15. KasimirKid

    KasimirKid Well-Known Member Full Member

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    What are you anyway, a brain surgeon? Geez, I would never dream of making such a comment to a serious-minded boxing fan. Buzz off, buddy. We are all entitled to our opinions without such garbage comments.
     
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