The arguments can stop ... a new RING Heavyweight Championship Lineage Begins February 22

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  1. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Keep digging? Apparently, you won't recognize the winner "just because."

    We'll have a WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION on February 22.

    And that man will join a list stretching back nearly 100 years of those who earned THE RING CHAMPIONSHIP.

    Including:

    Jack Dempsey and Gene Tunney
    https://media.gettyimages.com/photo...he-title-from-picture-id640201250?s=2048x2048

    Max Schmeling
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    Jack Sharkey
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    Primo Carnera
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    Joe Louis
    https://www.minotavrosbooks.com/pictures/001409_4.JPG?v=1551372682

    Jersey Joe Walcott
    https://www.thefightcity.com/wp-con...nal-walcott-receives-championship-belt999.jpg

    Rocky Marciano
    https://media.gettyimages.com/photo...arciano-of-ma-picture-id514703294?s=2048x2048

    Floyd Patterson
    https://i.pinimg.com/474x/4e/ea/08/4eea08f3cd910d289c33c894abdcf187--floyd-patterson-nat.jpg

    Ingemar Johansson
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    Sonny Liston
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    Muhammad Ali (the first time in 1964)
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    George Foreman.
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    https://www.flickr.com/photos/flagman00/4152593169

    Muhammad Ali the second time around
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    Mike Tyson
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    Evander Holyfield
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    Lennox Lewis
    https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-1c20633a4859847b92d37b78dcf7c93a

    Vitali Klitschko
    https://c8.alamy.com/comp/TYCJT1/wb...er-18-2004-upi-photoroger-williams-TYCJT1.jpg

    Wlad Klitschko
    https://c8.alamy.com/comp/CMA9K4/wl...-bern-switzerland-press-conference-CMA9K4.jpg

    Tyson Fury (the first time in 2015)
    https://www.ringtv.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/rsz_dt_ring_fury_2.jpg
     
  2. Special one

    Special one Active Member Full Member

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    So Fury could become a two time World Champion!? Makes for a big fight Vs Joshua!! Two time World Champion b two time unified Heavyweight Champion of the world!!
     
  3. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    It’s amazing that people are unwilling/unable to digest OP’s point.
     
  4. JDub

    JDub Active Member Full Member

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    Owned!
     
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  5. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    Other than being 100% wrong, you’re right he’s spot on.
     
  6. JDub

    JDub Active Member Full Member

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  7. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    uhhhh...yeah, not really the point. In this case Ring does speak for everyone because it’s kinda their belt. It matters, it’s a big deal, it’s historic, and not sure why this bothers you so much.
     
  8. JDub

    JDub Active Member Full Member

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    meh, I don’t care either way, the point he was making is wilder has beat one guy and Fury zero in the current top 10, and if we are making a big deal out of the ring now. That sucks.
     
  9. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    Ok well you stand in the corner with your arms folded and we’ll celebrate/acknowledge the historical event. I’m sure your lack of acknowledgement will take some luster away but we’ll have to manage.
     
  10. Heisenberg

    Heisenberg Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Genuine question. Is Tyson Fury the first lineal heavyweight champion not to hold a recognised organisations belt?

    And is he the first non belt holder to be announced as the lineal champion in the ring by an MC and engage in lineal title fights with no actual belt on the line?
     
  11. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Michael Spinks ring a bell? Or George Foreman?
     
  12. Heisenberg

    Heisenberg Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think it just feels exaggerated as Spinks and Foreman remained active whereas Fury had three years off whilst serving that nandrolone ban.
     
  13. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Agreed, sort of. I don’t really respect Fury’s lineage either. That said, I do agree with TBRB and the Ring that he can start a new lineage if he beats Wilder, and vice versa.
     
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  14. Doppleganger

    Doppleganger Southside Slugger Full Member

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    Fury lost any right to be the so-called 'lineal champ' when he was inactive for 3 years.

    I mean, it can't go on forever. There has to be a line drawn at some point right?

    Who has Fury actually beaten? He's dining off his win over Klitschko but that's one fight! At no point has he been a dominant champion which further degrades his right to be the lineal champ.

    He will be top dog if he beats Wilder but you can't say dominant really until he beats Joshua too.
     
  15. JDub

    JDub Active Member Full Member

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    cool story bro.