1950s Heavy weights underrated?

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  1. Mendoza

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    Since when? Not during their time. The 50's had more than the 10, 20's, 30's, and 40's. It's a middle of the pack decade. Of course the game changes in the 1980's, and since the 1990's no decade pre 1960 can really compare.

    1990-1999
    1970-1979
    1960-1969
    1980-1989
    2000-2009
    2010-2019
    1950-1959
    1900-1909
    1940- 1949
    1910-1919
    1920-1929
    1930-1939
    1890-1899

    Something like that 1950's are middle of the pack for me.
     
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  2. mattdonnellon

    mattdonnellon Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I actually think the 1890's were really good, top ten wise. Corbett, Fitz, Slavin, Goddard, Maher, Choynski. Sharkey, McCoy, Ruhlin, Jeffries , Jackson.
    for depth I agree.
     
  3. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    There hasn't been a worse decade of heavyweights since them, to be frank. But, as Seamus said, they deserve respect as fighters who gave it their best. It's not their fault that the division was thin and comprised primarily Cruiserweight sized guys.
     
  4. janitor

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    I am certain that there has been.

    Unless you are rewarding fighters simply for being big, regardless of their records, or their results against their peers!
     
  5. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wow couldn’t disagree more. Many great fighters there whom beat all the shws of the time. You know before steroids shws couldn’t compete.
     
  6. mattdonnellon

    mattdonnellon Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Let's just measure and weigh them all and do away with the unnecessary repetitive rounds and rounds of boxing. Or just compare the PEDS?
     
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  7. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I've always liked the 50s heavyweights. I watch them any chance I get. I also have a fondness for watching fights on kinescope, which most of the live calls from the 1950s are recorded on. The stark blacks and whites and the sometimes ghostly images have always appealed to me.

    Anyway, if you have a ROKU, which many people in the U.S. have these days, along with Netflix, Hulu, Amazon, etc., are apps that individuals and local networks have made themselves.

    There's an app that came out last month called WatchYourTV. It basically just has a lot of the old 1950s and 1960s tv shows. But there's a section on there called Sports and within that is Boxing. And they include some fights from the 1950s that they show on a loop. The app isn't designed very well, so it's difficult to see what you're clicking on.

    Long story short, I watched the Dan Bucceroni-Jimmy Slade fight on there the other night. Bucceroni looked really good. I was pretty impressed. There are quite a few fights circulating with Slade online and among collectors, but other than the LaStarza fights, you don't hear much about Bucceroni. I just checked and it's still on there. If you have a Roku, you should search for the app WatchYourTV and check out the boxing section. Some of these apps don't last very long before they disappear.

    Dan Bucceroni looks like a really good fighter even today.
     
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  8. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Rex Layne

    Rex Lanye

    To start with

    To start with
     
  9. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    That simply is not true. To say that is to not know about the numbers of rated fighters that consistently beat other rated fighters. And in those days you only got rated by taking another mans rank through beating him in an actual fight.

    This is before looking at names like Marciano, Charles, Walcott, Johansson, Patterson and Moore who were above guys that would win WBA titles in the 1980s.

    I like the 1980s. But can you really say Eddie Machen, Bob Baker, Zora Folley, Nino Valdes could not win belts in the 1980s?
     
  10. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Lol. We’ve been through Laynes record extensively. He was a more then solid fighter who’s record holds up great compared to any top 100 Heavy weight fighters fighters
     
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  11. Bummy Davis

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    very good era- tons of experience- talent - and everyone fought everyone worthwhile - fights were made
     
  12. Seamus

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    He's the canary in the coal mine for how horrible this era was at heavyweight.

    He wouldn't be much beyond a heavyweight 4 rounder today.

    Sad.

    Truly sad.
     
  13. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Layne had a nice career. You’re sad for attempting to poo poo on a fighter with no facts other then name calling.
     
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  14. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    No.

    Watch him.

    And he certainly got some homecooking.
     
  15. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    How about your hero Cleveland big Cat Williams?

    Throughout the 1950s decade Williams had 49 fights but could not beat one rated fighter. And yet in the 1960s Williams was able to get a couple of results against the kind of fringe opponent who knocked him out in the 1950s. Even in the 1970s Williams would win the Texas State Title against a world title challenger..This was well out of williams’ grasp in the 1950s.
     
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