Deontay Leshun Wilder vs. Tyson Luke Fury II

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Bronze Bomber or Gypsy King?

Poll closed Feb 22, 2020.
  1. Wilder on points

    0.8%
  2. Wilder by stoppage

    46.1%
  3. Draw

    1.7%
  4. Fury on points

    37.3%
  5. Fury by stoppage

    14.1%
  1. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    PAULIE MALIGNAGGI (FORMER TWO-DIVISION TITLEHOLDER/ TV ANALYST, SHOWTIME): FURY PTS
    I feel like most of the adjustments need to be made by Wilder. He was out-jabbed and outboxed last time, so he can’t hope to just go in and land a big shot. He needs more substance this time around. I feel Fury just has to make sure not to be careless. It’s not easy but it’s much less of an adjustment. On the other hand Wilder has to come with a better jab than Fury, which won’t be easy, and he has to learn to cut off the ring in one training camp. That’s almost impossible. Fury on points.

    EVANDER HOLYFIELD (FORMER UNDISPUTED HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION): WILDER KO
    I think it’s going to be a great fight. Tyson Fury is going to be the best boxer, he’s the best fighter, but what Deontay has is a good one-two and he has fast hands. Tyson Fury likes to play and joke around and every time he does that he gives Wilder a chance to hit him with the right hand and all it takes is one shot. I think he can catch him with that one shot because Tyson Fury gets a little too brave sometimes.

    JOE CALZAGHE (FORMER SUPER MIDDLEWEIGHT AND LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION): FURY PTS
    I thought Fury won the first fight. I go with Fury but Deontay Wilder punches so hard, it’s going to be a dangerous. Fury’s going to have to box him but also command Wilder’s respect because he doesn’t want him throwing those big punches. Fury showed he could outbox him, comfortably, and that was when Fury was heavier. Fury’s got a new trainer, that can work for you or against you. That’s going to be interesting. If Wilder hits anybody he’s going to knock them out. It’s one of those fights where Fury could be winning by 10 rounds but only one shot is needed by Wilder. I like Fury on points but you can never write Wilder off – he’s a ferocious puncher. I think it’ll pan out similar to the last fight.

    VADIM KORNILOV (MANAGER): FURY PTS
    I think Fury is the better boxer and if he doesn’t make any mistakes can get the victory. In reality, it’s a 50-50 fight considering Wilder’s power which can end the fight at any moment. Fury on points.

    ROBERT DIAZ (MATCHMAKER, GOLDEN BOY): WILDER KO 8
    A rematch worth watching. Who will make the necessary adjustments this time around to be declared the winner? In the first fight Wilder was looking for one punch to end the fight by KO and he almost got it in the dramatic 12th round. Two undefeated, big boys in there willing to test themselves. I know Wilder very well and he grows in every fight, I don’t see Fury doing much more as I don’t think there is much more he can do. Wilder will establish a jab, which was absent in the first fight, mix it up more and catch Fury much earlier than last time. The difference here is when the right lands Fury will not get up. Wilder KO 8.

    KALLE SAUERLAND (PROMOTER, SAUERLAND EVENT): FURY KO
    Fury to stop Wilder in six or seven rounds.

    EFE AJAGBA (HEAVYWEIGHT PROSPECT): WILDER KO
    Wilder will knock him out in around eight or nine rounds, and if they finish the fight, Fury wins.


    DUKE MCKENZIE (FORMER THREE-DIVISION TITLEHOLDER/TV ANALYST): WILDER KO 9
    In this eagerly anticipated rematch questions will be answered. Can Tyson Fury withstand the punches of Deontay Wilder? Does Deontay Wilder have the stamina to chase Tyson Fury over 12 rounds? I for one cannot see this fight going the distance. I feel Wilder will hunt Fury early and go for the KO early. I pick Wilder to win inside nine rounds.

    CAMILLE ESTEPHAN (PROMOTER, EYE OF THE TIGER): WILDER KO
    I think Wilder will know how to time Fury now. I would think a knockout between six and eight rounds.

    WAYNE MCCULLOUGH (FORMER BANTAMWEIGHT TITLEHOLDER/TRAINER): WILDER KO 7
    This fight could come down to who they thought won the first fight. They want to prove they should have got the decision, so hopefully it’s explosive. Fury doesn’t need to change anything as I thought he deserved the win last time. He will probably want to win the rounds more convincingly this time. I thought Wilder would have got the KO the first time and he almost did. He should throw at least three or four punches at a time – which he didn’t do until the big knockdown in the first fight, proving that it worked. One punch at a time will give Fury time to pick his punches and score enough to win the rounds. I think Fury will try to move around but Wilder will catch him – maybe around the seventh with a combo that will get the KO. When a fighter gets knocked down the way Fury did, their resistance to punches diminishes. Hopefully it’s a classic.

    RUDY HERNANDEZ (TRAINER): WILDER KO 10
    I believe that Wilder will give up a few rounds timing Fury’s movement and setting up to land that powerful right hand. Fury will have his moments, outboxing Wilder and giving fans the hope of winning this fight. But Wilder will continue to pressure and will find his range. Fury will survive a few times, but this time he doesn’t make it to the end of the fight. As much as I would like to see Fury win, Wilder will land that powerful right hand of his and Fury doesn’t beat the count this time. Wilder by KO within 10.

    KATHY DUVA (PROMOTER, MAIN EVENTS): FURY PTS
    I am torn again on this one. However, I am going to go with Tyson by decision. I just think that he is the more skilled fighter of the two. He is bigger than Wilder and he is not afraid of him. Also, while he has been knocked down by Deontay more than once, he always gets up. I think that that resilience will help him in the upcoming fight. Also, I expect that Tyson, who is now in better shape and much more active than he was going into the last fight, will be more able to stay focused and not get hit with the big haymakers from Deontay. So, to sum up, I believe that Tyson’s superior boxing ability will win the fight for him as long as he is able to focus and avoid taking the big punches. Of course, Wilder is, by far, the bigger puncher. And he always has that equalizer. That’s what makes the fight so interesting.

    JOLENE MIZZONE (MATCHMAKER, MAIN EVENTS): WILDER PTS
    I think that Wilder has improved much more then Fury. I think a new trainer with Fury may make him think too much and Wilder should take advantage of that. The best thing about this fight is it’s heavyweight boxing, so one punch on either side can end it all. Wilder by decision.

    FINAL TALLY: 12-8 IN FAVOR OF THE REIGNING WBC PAPER HEAVYWEIGHT TITLEHOLDER BOOTLEG D.
     
  2. Max Thunder

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    Kalle never disappoints. :applaudit:
     
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  3. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Except for the time when he picked Rigo to beat Loma which did disappoint me

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  4. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    When was this? I remember a decision which could've gone either way between a green guy who'd never gone 12 before, and a guy who had around 100 rounds of world level experience...

    I also remember Chisora being peak shape for that, and again when he was winning on point before getting brutally iced in a KO-OTY candidate in 2018.

    Either way, Whyte's hand was raised.
     
  5. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    How so? Jones and Mike fought the best aside from a couple guys.
     
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  6. speedbaggage

    speedbaggage Member Full Member

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    I thought you were genuinely a Tyson Fury fan boy and were just winding everyone up........then I read that reply and now I feel like I've been trolled hard and took all the bait. I don't know what to think now. I've been angry at a computer thinking you actually believed half the **** you were saying, but then those perfectly cliched Fury excuses are rolled out like we are in a pantomime. I think I need to log off.
     
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  8. Rilz

    Rilz Ball don't lie! Full Member

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    Got to say, he looks trim in the face. Likely still has the spare tire, but overall he is in great shape. No excuses.
     
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  9. Lesion of Doom

    Lesion of Doom Boxing Addict Full Member

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    We'll see at the weigh-in, but Fury does look a bit slimmer. Good for him.
     
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  10. yeyo monster

    yeyo monster Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hahhahaha yeah
     
  11. yeyo monster

    yeyo monster Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Thats why you are a fan of a bum! Go to your pub drunk scum
     
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  12. kiwi_boxer

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    'The participation for the first fight was amazin' - Deontay Wilder

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  13. yeyo monster

    yeyo monster Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So you saw this drug cheater win? Did you saw eddie hearn disgusting hand on the parker fight? Yo Whyte is a bum even in the last 30 years of HW BOXING
     
  14. POTUS

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    Fury is in the best shape of his career. He's coming to KO Wilder ... If Fury gets KO'd there will be no excuses because he lost all the walrus fat
     
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  15. mark ant

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    What lessons should Tyson Fury and Deontay Wilder have learned from their first fight about each other?
    I feel Fury should not be backing up in a straight line like he did in his first bout v Wildder and I feel DW should use feints to get Fury to move out of position, but what other tactics can either use to improve upon their respective displays in their first clash?