So Is Fury King At Heavyweight For Beating Wilder, Or A Bumkiller & The Win Means Nothing? Pick One.

Hes a King for beating down a hellacious dangerous p4p great puncher! and deontay wilder is actually very tough and durable despite what esb thinks.

No one else could do it.

 

Wilders resume was laughable and loaded with handpicked opponents many of which he was losing to before scoring Hail Mary knockouts. Wilder has zero skill and can’t fight. He was totally exposed as the limited fighter he is tonight. His team did no service in preparing him for tonight with such coddling throughout his career. Wilder is done.

 

Walter, Fury is definitely top tier but lets not get ahead of ourselves , he has to fight "Someone" really...Joshua , Whyte is a younger fresher version of Del Boy, he was crap last outing true but he can get up for this. I think Ruiz would be dealt with pretty quickly , but Usyk would take some figuring out. I doubt Fury would be able to smother & lean on Usyk as he'd have to catch him first plus his skills (which are excellent BTW) would be, IMO, a bit lower down the scale & speed compared to Usyk...Flame suit is on & tested to Apollo level!

 

Credit to both of them for fighting each other a second time. Fury was much more aggressive this time out and once Wilder lost his equilibrium he lacked any torque on his shots. Without that busted eardrum ( guessing that was the problem ) from the punch in the 1st knockdown the fight would be more competitive but Fury was a man on a mission last night. Neither guy is a bum. I made that mistake with Fury before Wlad, and was I ever wrong. Wilder showed a lot of heart in the face of almost certain defeat. Thats not a bum or a chump. And Fury was classy after the fight too.
NB. the entrances were asinine

 

Like many Boxers on here, Wilder doesnt get the respect he deserves.

Was a top top class performance by Fury today.

 

Great Post mate. As you rightly pointed out, Fury had to change things this time round as although I had him winning the first fight, fighting strictly off the back foot against a massive puncher like Wilder always gives him a sniff of ending it with 1 punch as he doesn't have to worry about anything coming back hence the change of style from Fury. Fury had to take the fight to Wilder and suck the energy out of him which takes Wilders main weapon away and he did which worked wonders, forcing Wilder backwards which he isn't comfortable doing as he can't set himself for his straight right and is very stiff defensively. It was a smart move bringing in a coach set out to attack, as opposed to fig hting defensively off the back foot like Davidson prefers to employ.

You're also correct a bout Wilders heart. He certainly is no quitter and will always back himself to win no matter where the fight is. The man is a true warrior and I hope to see him back at some stage. He would have gone out on his shield has his corner not pulled him out. He's had a good career despite what many of his critics say.

 

Fury is number 1 in the division for now but the Wilder win will be overblown as fate has been kind to Deontay and allowed him to flatter to deceive. Grit and power are all he has and had the division formed more impressively he'd be a Randall Bailey/Morrsion type footnote in its history.

As it is, he's a massive puncher with no skill who held a title for a surprisingly long time before facing an elite talent and getting his ass handed to him. Fury's a H2H nightmare on the eye test in his big fights rather than his resume.

 

Great post Ingliss

 

Fury is number 1 at HW beat Wlad, when he was at the top, and now beat the number 2, twice.

Beat two top tier opponents. His resume after that is poor but that doesnt matter with those 2 stand out names.

People can complain about Wilders lack of ability and padded record but he is legitimately dangerous. If he fights Fury in the rematch clause I wouldn't be surprised if he lands that right hand and stops him

 

I’m far from a Wilder hater and picked him (wrongly of course) to win this fight. I was surprised Fury was able to move so well carrying the extra weight. He fought a brilliant fight and earned an easy victory over Wilder. I also consider Fury to be 2-0 vs Wilder because he clearly won the first fight.

Fury is a unique fighter. I’ve never seen a big man move so well and take away his opponents strengths as Fury did last night. He never looked tired, won every round and made it look so easy. Wilder is a dangerous fighter and Fury made him look like an amateur. Masterful performance by the Gypsy King. If Joshua agrees to the fight, I believe Fury will box circles around him. That will be a massive fight, I hope takes place in England.

 

This is the same issue I see on this and other boxing forums(and other sports)

Too many people are fans of one fighter or another, so they denigrate fighters they don't like, then when their guy beats said fighter, all you've done is under cut your favoured fighters win.

Basically if Wilder is a "bum" then Fury win isn't anything too brag about.

You can't have it both ways.

 

Wilder obviously wasn't a bum, but he was a paper champion who was heavily protected, his only other good win was vs Ortiz, both times he was out boxed easily and needed his power to bail him out and lets be honest we still don't know how good Ortiz really is, his best win is Jennings who Joyce a novice beat pretty easily. The Ortiz/Ruiz fight may give us a better idea of Ortiz's level if Ruiz bothers to train.

I wouldn't rank the win over Wilder as Fury's best win, I still think his win over Wlad is better. If the Wlad win was a 10/10 win then I'd have the Wilder win as an 8/10 type win. I'd also rate a win over Joshua for Fury over this win over Wilder as Joshua is more proven.

The manner of Fury's win was the most impressive thing. This wasn't close or a cagey affair, this was a complete and utter beat down, he in a way exposed what some of the more knowledgeable of us already knew, Wilder can't fight off the back foot. You could see that in his fights vs Washington and Szplika, he struggled in those fights when he stood off and boxed, but the fight completely turned to his favour once he stood his ground and so could set his feet to throw the right hand, the difference in his effectiveness was almost immediate.

So it's a good win, and a significant one because a title was involved but I don't think you can claim greatness off of just beating Wilder. But combine that win the Wlad win, his other good win over Chisora and if he goes onto beat Joshua then it would be hard to deny he's one of the greats.

 

Think Wilder needs a ton of credit. After a career which evolved into a one dimensional 'seek and destroy' game plan for all fights, two rounds into the bout he surely knew the lack of a Plan B was gonna lead to a world of hurt. He took his licks and didn't spit the gum shield and look for a way out.

That's partly on him, for gambling his right hand was the solution to all fights but also his trainers need to take some flack for allowing a world champ to have no back foot game. It's not like the building blocks were not there for timing his punches as the opponent comes forward. Just ask Artur Szpilka about that.

Okay, we're talking levels here but it seems they ignored this potential route for landing his right based on the assumption no boxer would choose to step into the wheelhouse and pay no deference to the danger in doing so.

Fury bulked up, chose to step in with his jab and make the fight physical. And Wilder had no answers, knew he had no answers, but took his punishment regardless.

 

Lol clownshoes, that's a good one!