So Is Fury King At Heavyweight For Beating Wilder, Or A Bumkiller & The Win Means Nothing? Pick One.

You start a new lineage by beating the #2 guy as the #1 guy, as Fury did last night. He doesn't need to do anything to be lineal again, he already is the lineal.

And Joshua doesn't have the best record, not when his best win is an inactive old man who's coming off of a loss to Fury, who now has the best single win and the second best single win in the division.

Btw, dominance takes several succesfull defences throughout the years as the champion. As of yet, Joshua defended the IBF/WBA/WBO belts succesfully once during his 2 reigns.

 

The number two guy in the division was Joshua and the number one was Wlad. Fury beating Wlad was Wlad having an off night and a fluke like Ruiz beating Joshua. That **** didn't make Ruiz the kingpin and it didn't do the same for Fury. Fury and Wilder have never been anything but the number two and three to Joshua's number one. Their fight last night just solidified who was the #1 contender, who was the objective number two fighter at the moment.

Fury isn't lineal anymore because he lost to Wallin. Wallin is now your so called lineal champion. Unless you don't care about lineal championships, the man who beat the man, anymore?

Joshua has a much better record. He beat the much better version of Wlad. Plus, he beat Parker, Povetkin, Whyte, Takam, and Breazeale. Fury beat an old faded Wlad, and now Wilder. That's it.

Also, Joshua has three defenses of the three belts versus zero defenses of any belts for Fury.

 

I can't ignore a loss that happened just 8 months ago when making a ranking. The only reason Ruiz is a top10 HW now is because he upset Joshua last year, his best win before that was Dimitrenko. However you feel about the decision in the first fight, Wilder's 10 straight title defences and him coming off of a KOTY contender against a top10 HW trumped Joshua's at the end of a year where AJ went 1-1 with a guy who wasn't top10 at the time he first fought Joshua in my view.

 

A lot of the Fury fanatics are acting like morons.

 

Bro, with all due respect what you just posted is gibberish.

 

Joshua was not the #2 when he beat Wlad, he was a prospect. And he climbed the rankings with that win against Wlad who was already dethroned.

I'm not sure in which parallel universe you live in, but Fury beat Wallin by decision in this one.

Joshua doesn't have a better record. His best win is a 41 year old Wlad who hadn't won a fight in 2 years and, coming off of a loss to Fury and a long lay off. Fury ending Wlad's 22 fights winning streak is far, far, far superior to anything Joshua has done in his career, and now he's also the guy to and Wilder's 10 straight title defences, also a better single win than anyone of Joshua's. And Chisora is a better win than both Takam and Breazeale, both versions of him. Povetkin, Parker and Whyte can be lined up after the wins over Wlad and Wilder, building Joshua's case as the champion's(Fury) #1 challenger.

 

How many people think Wallin did enough? If we're talking hypotheticals then he was very lucky to hear the final bell after so egregiously fouling after Fury was cut. He could have had no complaints if had been DQ'd he could of had no complaints.

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I was never that big on AJ's win over Wlad, always felt Wlad looked good that night despite all the factors against him because Joshua made him look good.

 

I agree a rating should take a loss into account but

2018
Joshua beat WBO champ Parker and Povetkin

Wilder beat Ortiz and got a disputed draw with Fury


2019
Joshua losses and wins against Ruiz

Wilder beat Breazeale and Ortiz

Now I agree a loss should be taken into account but think the whole page should be read

To me Joshua having wins over Parker, Povetkin, loss to Ruiz and win against Ruiz
Is overall imo greater than 2 wins over Ortiz, Breazeale win and a draw that many feel was a loss to Fury is overall not as good considering Joshua was away to Ruiz and Breazeale was a fighter Joshua had beaten as well as Joshua having beaten Wladimir

Ratings can be altered very quickly.
You can have an unknown beat the man and suddenly they are at number one over what was previously higher rated contenders
I think Ruiz should have jumped above Wilder at that time but only my opinion

 

Two things can be true.

 

King.

 

I do like this post.

I bet the epic cosmic orgasmic burst like release is how you felt when AJ lost (its certainly how I felt when Khan lost to Prescott)

But the actual substance of the post I do like.

Bravo sir.