Is this a terribly weak heavyweight era?

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  1. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hmm, I believe without question the 70's,80's and 90's are far superior than the last 20 years .
     
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  2. herbzg

    herbzg Euro-Level Athlete Full Member

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    Yes and wilder was the weakest heavyweight champion in history . I’ve been saying this for a long time .
     
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  3. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    Yeah last night he was pretty damn good. Not many 6’9 270lb men that skilled, that determined, and that willing to go for broke. Who would beat who, this guy or that guy, I don’t know. But yeah at least for that moment in time, he’d be a problem for anybody. That’s my personal opinion.
     
  4. ertwin

    ertwin Active Member banned Full Member

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    American logic= no americans at the top must be a crappy division.

    Wilder fury aj ortiz would all kill the 90s hw and massacre the 60‘s and 50‘s era.

    hell people seriously talk on this board about guys like micheal spinks or micheal moorer as if those guys where anything special. Sport evolves thats the way it is. grow up and deal with it, or keep acting like a fat 45 year old that is watching boxing compilations all day but cant even run 2 miles.
     
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  5. Nopporn

    Nopporn Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I wish that there was the Super Heavyweight Division so that the giant heavyweight like Fury won't have the size advantages to other fighters.
     
  6. Heavy_Hitter

    Heavy_Hitter Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Lol
     
  7. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

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    I disagree with Wilder and ortiz but I agree with what youre saying
     
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  8. blackfella96

    blackfella96 Active Member Full Member

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    Depends who we are comparing to.... I think this era has great talent, but don't have the grit like previous eras. Too much stuffing around and not enough fights are being made.
     
  9. fistsof steel

    fistsof steel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Truth.!!
     
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  10. fistsof steel

    fistsof steel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If you read this it puts it into perspective what an average lot of Heavyweights we have now....60s 70s 80s and the 90s were outstanding eras.!!!
     
  11. wutang

    wutang Active Member Full Member

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    I was never an avid follower of the heavyweight division. I pay more attention to it now than I did ten years ago. I certainly find it more exciting than I did back then. Not sure if it actually is or if I'm just paying closer attention. I think wladimir just didn't do it for me. He was so dominant and I just lost interest because I knew he would win. Now I feel the matchups are more compelling even though the fighters may not be as good.
     
  12. thanosone

    thanosone Love Your Brother Man Full Member

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    Fury wouldn't be top 10 in the 90s.
     
  13. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Punching-power is a good way to gauge the depth of boxing divisions, Bantams so far produced the hardest P4P boxers of all time, Sandy Saddler & Carlos Zarate both started as natural walking Bantams, both standing at 5'09"~5'10 175cm~178cm

    When Heavyweights are judged P4P on basics, starting by punching power, they fair poorly. This is due to the small pool of people that size in the general population, also KO power is achieved at current brute force, so it might be due to the lack of excess power in the evolutionary context. Otherwise a scaled up Carlos Zarate will be a modern Lightweight who is capable of KOing all heavyweights, we seen tall men gifted with an impressive range ala Fundora & Mykal Fox but they tend to under-perform just like a Heavyweight will do.

    Thomas Hearns stands as the tall exception at Welter & Deontay Wilder as the best in heavyweight

    Carlos Zarate possibly the best Puncher P4P
    • 1.50 ratio --- 178/118 Carlos Zarate
    • 1.48 ratio --- 175/118 Sandy Saddler
    • 1.25 ratio --- 185/147 Thomas Hearns
    • 1.14 ratio --- 183/160 Gerald Mclelan
    • 1.09 ratio --- 191/174 Bob Foster
    • 1.00 ratio --- 200/200 Deontay Wilder
    • 0.92 ratio --- 183/200 Earnie Shavers
    • 0.91 ratio --- 192/212 George Foreman
    • 0.90 ratio --- 198/220 Wladimir Klitschko
    • 0.88 ratio --- 196/224 Lennox Lewis
     
  14. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Did you mean Yes.. or Yes full stop full stop?
     
  15. Woodster

    Woodster New Member Full Member

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    Yes, like what has been said previously, there's a lot of potential 50/50 fighhts out there, really good contests that I'm sure everyone hopes can get made and that can pretty much be any of the fighters from a list of say 12. However, there are the three top fighters that are probably a step above at the moment, depending how Usyk settles into life as a heavyweight. This doesn't necessarily make it a high quality division but it does make it a captivating one if the right fights get made.