I think Wilder had his moments in the first two rounds. He arguably won the second. But Fury soon established that jab, as you say, and for a guy that can only pull his head back from the jab, that was the beginning of the end. The way Fury fought Wilder is the way I've previously said would the best way for AJ to do it. But seeing how Fury have the ability to peck away at Wilder from the outside, I didn't think he would choose that option. I'm glad that he did. He would have won anyway, but this way was more spectacular and exciting than a points win.
Fury is an intelligent guy with an overactive mind- depression is from the difference of mind vs emotion on the Fury life ride ( mountains to valleys) and Fury has an upbringing that is unusually violent - right now he is at the top and it get lonely when you catch your dream but your right he needs to stay active and a few more fights and get out As far as Wilder, he still has that dangerous power but the book on beating him may be out (still not an easy task) and like most punchers who ride on power - nobody focuses on their weakness until its exposed. Wilder can come back -his power is top tier and he has lost only to top tier - Styles make fights and getting back for Wilder is to defeat his doubts especially after this last lost. Wilder needs to go back to the basics (he abandoned his jab) but at 34 yrs old not an easy task. Fury now has beaten Vlad and Wilder 2X in reality but also showed he is a thinking man, like I said earlier he may be crazy but hes far from stupid- Fury put together a team to get in where his vision pictured his victory and adapted his style to victory- something even Ali had trouble with vs Norton and Frazier. Styles make fights and not sure how a Joshua fight would go - although I favor Tyson and his spirit right now- another thing Fury was very classy with his remarks post fight and like Ali - Crazy as a Fox. Fury is a tough man with a kind heart, Wilder had no quit in him but appeared confused and shaken and hurt throughout, Fury fought dominantly
Yes - Fury/Joshua is the fight that needs to happen. Fury/Wilder III seems superfluous to requirements (although, the money might make it too hard to resist). The jury is still out for me on how a fight between Fury and AJ goes. I think Fury is the better boxer, but there is the matter of their respective styles to factor in. So, I'll need to ponder on that potential bout for a while, before making a forecast.
the fact that it is the same guy i watched last night that i also watched live in brentwood, 11 years ago going life and death with big john mcdermott hurts my brain
Hats off to Fury for a tremendous performance. Wilder was finally exposed and it was long overdue. He was beaten physically and mentally by a much better opponent.
Fury won every round on 2 judges' scorecards and lost 1 round on the other judge's scorecard. He made it easy for the judges this time.
I don't think I've ever seen a 6'6 230lbs champion thrown around like a ragdoll. The sheer physicality of Fury's beating was breath taking. In some ways it reminded me of his fight with Steve USS Cunningham. Other than an early KD, Cunningham just got mauled until he had nothing left. Wilder, similarly, was going on pure heart from the 5th on. I hope he recovers; his beating was a lot worse than it looked to the untrained eye. The ear was particularly concerning. Incredible for Fury to overcome long bouts of depression. He's at his best when challenged. I hope climbing this summit doesn't make him fall into the abyss again.
I wouldn't favor anybody in history over Fury H2H. He's like a 6-9, 275 pound Chris Byrd or FMJ, boxing is second nature to the guy. Unless he gets out of shape he's going to be tough to beat. Fury dwarfed and physically bullied a 6-7, 230 pound man. It's funny that there are people on message boards saying that Fury can't punch...a 275 pound man who doesn't even know how to punch can hit hard. Fury has been training and punching his whole life under the tutelage of his father, uncles, etc. who are boxers. When he wants to hit hard, he can. Wilder impressed me with his heart, I think he was hurt early and didn't get to recover. It might have had something to do with the bleeding ear, it looked like his balance was off. There are few in history that I would favor H2H over Wilder. Wilder is still long, tall, quick, and athletic. Losing to Fury is no disgrace, I wouldn't favor anybody to beat Fury. If Fury fights Wilder again, it's still a dangerous fight for both of them. There are so many big strong athletes coming up with top class amateur experience that nobody is safe, but it won't be a Frazier, Marciano, or Patterson type who beats either of them.
I think the challenge of AJ will keep him focused. Relatively, Wilder could enact the rematch clause, although, for his sake, I hope Wilder leaves Fury alone. As you said, there's a lot of dominance in that fight. Good grappling techniques, partial headlockse, leaning his own weight across all of Wilder's neck, over and underhooks and control of the bicep, mauling and inside shots, a few feints and tricks that would be second nature to him. I don't want Wilder to go through a similar experience.
And it was never even close. Sigh. Oh well, there will be a rubber match, though my dream of Deontay knocking him silly looks just like that, a dream. I'll have to get used to Fury, because I seriously doubt Joshua and Ruiz can beat him. He's the man, even if I don't care for him or his fighting style much.
This exciting Fury win made me come back to this forum. Where are guys who call Wilder a bigger and better Bob Fitzsimmons?
