So Is Fury King At Heavyweight For Beating Wilder, Or A Bumkiller & The Win Means Nothing? Pick One.

Inevitable happened really, Wilder was always going to lose to a good boxer, being a one-trick pony himself.
First fight was won by Fury too, he just got sloppy and opened the door for getting screwed with that draw.

As for how significant this win is - Fury stopped a bum killer, nothing more to it skill-wise. He was supposed to win and win he did, same as the first fight, the fight was Fury’s to lose.
Otherwise this win is very important in terms of what opportunities are now open. Wilder wouldn’t have fought AJ any time soon and the WBC belt was held hostage Stiverne-style. Now we have a chance of getting an undisputed HW champ so well done to Fury - the liberator of belts, did it with Wlad, now Wilder. Maybe he will pull it off with AJ too.

 

Text Book Covert-Narcissism thread, no dancing around the bush needed

Covert Narcissists are the peasant class in Narcissism, the 99.99% losers (Failed Narcissists), in contrast to the Elites within Narcissism (Grandiose Narcissists), the difference in reaction between a peasant and an Elite is best proven by the official White House invitation Wilder & Fury got yesterday.

The failed-Narcissist peasants biggest weakness is the lower IQ, so all their rambling is easily countered by facts, they can always be reminded of their lower IQ & in this case Physical inferiority by posting the facts

• Fury without Wilder = 30-0-0-0 (21)
• Wilder without Fury = 42-0-0-0 (41)

All blemishes between the two ATGs, yet those losers at life & definitely losers in boxing, try to undermine Tyson Fury or Deontay Wilder to some how elevate their menial existence.

 

What both ways? Joshua did not beat Wlad for three titles, Wlad had no titles going into that fight. Joshua had the IBF belt which he won from Charles Martin, and also the vacant WBA belt was on the line, there was not even a third belt to speak of. And Fury beat Wallin.

There was no wonderland or foundation of youth for Wlad to get better after the age 40. The Wlad AJ beat was most definetly not better than the Wlad Fury beat. The only reason Wlad looked bad against Fury because Fury made him looked bad. I was favouring Povetkin over Wilder back in 2015/16, but not now, not the one that Joshua beat. Parker always finds a way to lose, and Whyte looks even more sloppy than Wilder against taller oppponents and is more hittable. I'd still bet on Wilder to put Whyte to sleep. Joshua beat more contenders, but Fury beat champions.

 

One got pummelled, getting dropped 4 times en route to a TKO loss, the other won a decision in a competitive fight. I don't see the comparison.

 

You know, people talk about Ortiz not having beaten a top10 HW since 2015 to dismiss him as a good win for Wilder, and yet the exact same goes for Povetkin too. The last time he beat a top10 HW was 2015, when he beat Mike Perez who previously got his 0 snatched by Jennings.

 

Failed Narcissists failed in the first place, because they were busy "feeling" instead of "reading"

 

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Fury is the king of the division.

I had him at #1 anyway but he absolutely dominated a guy who should have been no lower than #3 in anyone's rankings (he was #2 in mine). Great performance in an excellent win.

For what it's worth, I still think Wilder gooms AJ. He's going to struggle to get fights now. As ridiculous as he is, Fury is the real deal.

 

I never hated Wilder, just wanted him to face a genuine top 5 opponent in their prime. Given he'd held a belt for 5 years and people were putting him in ATG lists it seemed reasonable? He finally did this at the weekend. Respect to him for stepping up.

 

I'm just surprised by the lack of respect toward Joshua. And I used to be called names by his supporters... I fancy his resume superior to that of Fury's. HW is still a wasteland where top guys barely ever face off. Wilder is still one of, what, 2 or 3 top ten ranked guys Fury has ever fought? Hmm. Some dominant "best of his generation" guy, eh?

 

He's funny isn't he...

Never seen a grow man cry on the Internet so much over fighters with essays on that **** to boot. lol

I love how two fighters he hates now sit atop the division...

It's satisfying I must say.

 

It's somewhere in between

 

Joshua beat Wlad with three titles on the line, the IBF belt he'd taken off of Martin, as well as the WBA super and the IBO belt. But you're right, he had to fight Parker for the WBO belt.

Fury lost to Wallin if you believe the likes of Intentionalbutt and CST80. If you revisit the round by round thread you will find there was a wee bit o' controversy over the official scoring of that fight.

Wlad probably had a lousy camp with a lousy game plan for Fury. He was training better, fixing flaws, and preparing like a madman the year that Fury jerked him around. The Fury fight was a career worst performance by Wlad, but the Joshua performance might have been a career best. I'd favor Povetkin over Wilder today. Parker knows how to box and isn't an old man. I'd favor him over Wilder who can't box at all and feasts on tomato cans.

"Joshua beat more contenders, but Fury beat champions?" Martin, Parker, and Ruiz were all champs when Joshua fought them making the champ count 3-2 in his favor. Add to that two former champs in Klitschko and Povetkin.

 

So wlad had a lousy training camp preparing for the fury fight but had the best training camp for the Joshua fight which means Joshua beating Wlad was better? LOL Stop it.