Top 10 heavyweights

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  1. TonyHayers

    TonyHayers Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    You have to admit it looks very weird for Tyson to cheat for Hammer and then not cheat for Klitschko. Would be like a tennis player deciding to risk everything to beat Ivo Karlovic in the third round at Wimbledon and then not repeat the trick against Federer.

    My view is that once you’re popped you’re always open to questioning.
     
  2. Gymbot

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  3. Hattonmad

    Hattonmad Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The No.1 heavyweight in the world and everyone knows it including Adam Smith and the AJ nuthuggers. Only the diehard haters disagree. Enjoy the day you seething little ladies X

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  4. Mitch87

    Mitch87 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So you have no logical reasoning to backup your opinion that Wilder beats the likes of Whyte, Povetkin, Parker and Ruiz?
     
  5. FP 2.0

    FP 2.0 Member Full Member

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    You may as well just say “ everyone who disagrees with me is an idiot.”

    I personally think Fury should be number one but you can make a case for Joshua. All subjective.
     
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  6. alb23

    alb23 New Member Full Member

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    This is the top 10 on paper - my opinion of who is the best differs.

    1. Anthony Joshua - Whilst I think Tyson Fury would easily beat him, he doesn't hold the majority of the belts so on paper AJ is number 1.
    2. Tyson Fury - Holds the other belt and think he's the best in the division but on paper he's number 2. Just because number 2 & 3 fight each other, doesn't automatically make the winner number 1?
    3. Deontay Wilder - 2nd longest reigning champ I believe and just lost against who I believe is the best in the division.
    4. Dillian Whyte - Been mandatory forever and even though I don't think he necessarily won all his recent fights (some were certainly close), he did on paper.
    5. Andy Ruiz - He just held the majority of the belts and KO'd AJ last year.
    6. Alexander Povetkin - Doesn't duck anyone, only 2 losses on his record are AJ and Wlad.
    7. Joseph Parker - Only 2 losses are AJ and Whyte and feel like he could feel harshly done by in both. He's beat Andy Ruiz (which Ruiz probably could've felt harshly done by).
    8. Michael Hunter - Drew with Povetkin in his last fight (think he probably deserved the win) Won all his other bouts at HW against okay opposition.
    9. Luis Ortiz - He's about 80 but his only 2 losses have been Wilder. Once again, all his wins have been against nobody special.
    10. Adam Kownacki - Unbeaten and fought okay opposition, just enough to be in top 10.

    Notable mentions:
    Oleksandr Usyk - Only had one fight at HW and it was against Witherspoon, not enough to be classed as top 10 HW until he beats someone at least in top 20.
    Dereck Chisora - Doesn't shy away from a fight but level of opposition that he's actually beat since the last Whyte loss hasn't been great.
    Think the winner of Joyce & Dubois probably could be in with a shout of being top 10.
     
  7. Hattonmad

    Hattonmad Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He knocks them all spark out bud because Whyte has a glass jaw, Povetkin is old, Parker was never any good and Ruiz is obese!
     
  8. Hattonmad

    Hattonmad Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Not at all bud. Do you not see the hilarity in how it's the same people who hate Tyson Fury that say he's not no.1? Coincidence? Obviously not!!
     
  9. Mitch87

    Mitch87 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ruiz fights exactly same style as Fury did against Wilder. Come forward pressure fighter , getting on the inside but although Ruiz doesn't have Furys footwork Ruiz does has a lot quicker hands and a much better chinn. Stylistically i dont see how Ruiz loses to Wilder. Ruiz style is all wrong for Wilder as shown at weekend. You would have to back all the top come forward pressure fighters with decent chinns against Wilder such as Ruiz, Povetkin, Hunter, Chisora and Rivas.

    Wilder has avoided powerful punchers his entire career Whyte and Povetkin both are amongst the most hardest hitting punchers in the division as well as being technically superior to Wilder. Wilder was dropped by body shot, they dont call Whte the "body snatcher" for nothing, hes one the best at going to body in the divison.

    On top of that; Whyte, Povetkin, Ruiz and Parker all have better resumes or career wins than Wilder.
     
  10. Oreet Cha!

    Oreet Cha! I know what I like and I like what I know. Full Member

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    AJ v Fury.

    In the words of Harry Hill - "Which is better? There's only one way to find out. FIGHT!"
     
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    Like it pal. No Pulev on notable mentions?
     
  12. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    I aint a bonafide AJ fan, but I'll freely air my opinion that AJ beats Fury.

    You need to calm down cup cake... Fury beat WILDER.... not Muhammed Ali.... jesus
     
  13. PaddyGarcia

    PaddyGarcia Trivial Annoyance Gold Medalist Full Member

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    1) Fury
    2) Wilder
    3) AJ
    4) Ruiz
    5) Whyte
    6) Hunter
    7) Parker
    8) Povetkin
    9) Kabayel
    10) Joyce

    I've no real gripes about dropping Wilder low than where I have him, I had Fury at 1 anyway and would still back Wilder over AJ H2H so nothing much has changed for me. It's a difficult division to grade and I don't think there are too many wrong ways of grading them outside the top 3. Usyk would be in there had he any wins at the weight but I couldn't justify him really. I wouldn't be dreadfully opposed to swapping Joyce for Kownacki, Rivas or Bakole at this stage.
     
  14. PaddyGarcia

    PaddyGarcia Trivial Annoyance Gold Medalist Full Member

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    Not entirely. In the sense that they applied pressure, yes, but they do it in different ways. Ruiz likes to trade on the inside and throws hooks whilst utilising an active guard. A lot of Fury's pressure relied on his size and he used that to smother Wilder a lot a la Wlad. He used his feet defensively more than Ruiz would do too. He's slower of foot than Fury as you note but he's a lot easier to find than Fury is. I think people are forgetting how important Fury's size\weight were to his game plan at the weekend.
     
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  15. Hattonmad

    Hattonmad Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Take a few more days off Aydamn. Another man in damage limitation mode who laughed at Fury's alleged lack of power for months, telling us he had no chance of stopping Wilder, and how Wilder would splatter Fury all over the ring. But yea, it's no big deal now ey?

    And the only reason you pick AJ is because he destroyed Dillian 'The Mandatory Champion' Whyte.