1950s Heavy weights underrated?

Here you go changing the subject again, do you retract your laughable claim that Williams was knocked out (not decisioned or given a tough test) by a fringe oppenent or not?

 

Having thought about it, Bob was perhaps better than fringe at the time. He was still dangerous. Bobs stock was low at that point but it later improved.

Sylvester Jones was beaten in a rematch but never good in the first place.

Liston was still climbing the ranks in the 1950s but was clearly emerging as a great fighter.

overall I guess I can retract the statement that Williams was knocked out by fringe guys and replace it with “Williams was never more than a fringe guy himself in the 1950s”.

 

I am NOT your friend.

 

Who are you and what have you done to Choklab?

 

FFS I'm talking about a credible source!
Boxing BY ****ing Numbers!OMG!

 

lol

 

Although I am disappointed to hear this, I am rather unsurprised you feel that way. It is unfortunate that The logical response for some people is to be hostile toward the truth. When the healthy response should always be that there is no shame in losing the argument and winning the truth.

 

The irony of this!

 

How so?

You know there is nothing dishonest about having a differing opinion don’t you?

By the way, I am back from one of those sabbaticals (my first) that you have frequently endured. Have I missed anything?

 

So many posters accuse you of dishonesty in the way you construct and frame your arguments , are they all wrong?
I'e been banned twice,once for overiding the censor*,which I was unaware was not allowed,and once for making a post which as it was put to me,"was likely to inflame racist comments".Twice in 14 years.
Is that what you call frequently?

 

I have explicitly explained myself coherently on every single time I have been bogusly accused of this....and never, not once,( not even partially) has anyone ever disagreed with that explanation or ever came back sufficiently to support their bogus claim of dishonesty. It has been proved time and time again that it is not so. I have not lied.

Are they all wrong? They have never disagreed with my explanation! So let’s put an end to this ridiculous tactic. It is not, and nor has it ever been dishonest to have a different opinion.

I do not dislike anyone who disagrees with me. If they cannot respond or disagree with an explanation it is not dishonesty.

 

Yeah, it is totally made up. But at least now the whole thing has been exposed as a phoney tactic to shut me down.