Can Fury surpass Lennox

If he was to beat AJ, Usyk, Whyte, Ruiz, Parker, Ortiz and Povetkin, he'd be on a par with LL.

Obviously, that won't happen, but it's through no fault of his own that the division has lacked depth for nigh on two decades.

 

Fury's best win is a win vs an old Wlad who was older than both Tyson and Holyfield when Fury fought him.

Lennox also had wins vs prime heavyweights like Tua, Vitali, Golota, Ruddock, Mercer. Vitali alone I would rate better in terms of head to head ability over Whyte and Usyk and even Joshua.

 

Lol at those that actually believe that, notice how everyone that claimed that also picked Wilder to beat Fury. So either they DKSAB or they were wrong about Wilder.

The idea Wilder is the hardest puncher ever based off of KO's against Ortiz who has never faced another puncher so his chin is up for debate, his KO of Breazeale who had been down before and stopped before and lets be honest was caught cold early when fighters tend to be more vulnerable and of course the KO over a shot Stiverne.

Compare that to feared punchers like Mike Tyson, Foreman, Liston, Tua, Lewis , Wlad etc is laughable.

 

It's tight. He probably will fight Wilder and then AJ (if Eddie has the ball bags to make the fight), then call it a day. Is that enough to surpass Lewis? Lennox's resume is miles better, he did get KOed twice but avenged both. Fury will be undefeated and gained every single possible belt he could. I would say Lewis still slightly edges it.

 

BB maybe you can Reply with one name, so Teddy Atlas & the other naive "experts" can learn from you.

Fast 6'07" KOs any Shorter boxer, with a single Right hand. Tyson Fury almost died in Rd 12, something a very heavy handed Wlad failed to do & Vlad Right Hand is really a small step below Deontay Wilder, mainly because Wlad is shorter & a bit slower

 

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No.
Fury is very good status. Lennox is shortlist elite.
Lennox is a better technical fighter and packs major power.
Lennox wins a comfortable decision or KO's Fury (if the latter stays in range too long)

 

It has to be said that you have been shitting on Tyson Fury for the last week (and possibly beyond). Every time I see you post, I'm expecting the same old angle.

Tyson Fury is incredible. Just try and enjoy it.

 

are you a casual? Unbeaten is not the answer on it's own. Is Sven Ottke better p4p than Lennox?

 

Literally everyone said Wilder was limited before the fight. Even his momma.
In terms off having it both ways....you do realise there is a difference between being a big puncher and having limited skills right??

 

He is 2-0-1 in titlefights, no defences as of yet, and we still don't know how Wilder is going to hold up in the long run, now the blueprint has been presented.
Lennox is way ahead, is 15-2-1 in titlefights, and has been undisputed. Has Tyson, Vitali, Holyfield, Tua, Mavrovic, Mercer, Briggs, Rahman, McCall, Ruddock, Golota, Tucker, Morrisson and Bruno on his resume... it's completely and utterly incomparable! I mean, look at those names.. you can call that mass murderers row!

 

Wilder is 10-1-1 in title fights, so that kind of statistic doesn't mean much in itself.

No, most of those weren't killers at all.
Mavrovic ? hardly anyone had heard of him. He was marginally more proven than an Otto Wallin, and his reputation rests almost entirely on Lewis being unable to KO him.
Morrison was a bit crap, to be honest.
Briggs wasn't much good either.
etc. etc.

Let's not overrate them simply because they fought in the 1990s.
I followed heavyweight boxing closely throughout the 1990s and I remember exactly how good those guys were.
Yes, Lewis's resume is clear above Fury's at the moment, but let's not pretend the average fighters on his record were more than what they were.

 

No way papi

 

People seem to give Lewis a huge pass for losing to McCall and Rahman.

Against McCall you could argue the stoppage was premature but actually Lewis had no legs and literally stumbled and fell against the referee when the referee was checking him over.

Against Rahman he just didn't beat the count.

It's okay listing all the wins he had, and they were plenty of wins over ranked fighters of the day, but losses have to figure into it too. especially when you were knocked the **** out by second-raters.
That's why Fury's undefeated status is important at the moment .... yes, he needs further wins to put him near the likes of Lennox, but he doesn't need a dozen of them or whatever, providing he doesn't take any embarrassing loss like Lewis did twice.

 

He needs a few more fights before he can be considered on that level.

If he beats Joshua and Whyte, then you can definitely have the conversation.